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To: TWohlford; Pharmboy
And, if being “born this way” makes it a civil rights issue, then wouldn’t that same argument apply to pedophiles, philanderers, etc? To be moral, one must be a “free moral agent” (free to choose options), and “born this way” indicates that we are not free moral agents, right?

As I see it, science is moving in the direction that the orientation is wired in. That is, pedophiles have an orientation that makes them attracted to young children. That does not mean that they are helpless against it. Whether they act on it is their choice.

With philandering, again, I would say the temptation is wired in. Whether one acts on it is a choice. The role of "society" in creating philanderers is to either inhibit or encourage a temptation that is already present in a large percentage of the population.

That's my read of the lit.

24 posted on 11/28/2007 7:33:49 AM PST by freespirited (I'm voting for the GOP nominee.)
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To: freespirited

“As I see it, science is moving in the direction that the orientation is wired in.”

Well, they’ve tried to find the “gay gene” (not to be confused with my gay friend, Gene) for 25 years now. They haven’t found it. The best that any medical person will tell me is that one has “tendencies”, akin to the “tendency” to be a couch potato. Certainly there is no overwhelming drive that forces us to have those sex acts as part of our hard wiring.

Still, like global warming, this is a political issue. If your research is based on the premise that we choose our sexual attractions (at some level, nurture vs nature, etc) then where would that idea land you? Thrown off of campus with no funding!


27 posted on 11/28/2007 7:38:49 AM PST by TWohlford
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To: freespirited

Just because ya wanna doesn’t mean ya hafta. :)


51 posted on 11/28/2007 9:36:03 AM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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