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Vista woes lead IT pros to Macs, Linux
IpodNN ^ | November 19th

Posted on 11/24/2007 7:57:48 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Many IT professionals are turning to Mac and Linux systems to avoid installing Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system as an upgrade, according to a survey conducted by King Research. Of 961 IT professionals polled, a whopping 90 percent expressed concerns about migrating to Vista. What's more, over half of those surveyed said they had no plans to use Microsoft's latest operating system at this time. Macs are currently the most favored alternative to Windows with 28 percent of respondents saying they would most likely to turn to Macs, rather than upgrade to Vista.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: linux; macintosh; macos; ptbarnumrunsmsft; visiblemiddlefinger; vista; vistafailure; windowsmillennium
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For all you mac freepers out there. Because of Vista, Apple will be the clear winner/beneficiary.
1 posted on 11/24/2007 7:57:50 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Vista woes lead IT pros to Macs, Linux

Yes, Toto! And the Good Wizard will get us back to Kansas!

2 posted on 11/24/2007 7:59:11 AM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Don't see a lot of Macs running Oracle, SQL and the grandaddy of them all....Exchange, in the enterprise.

The number one platform that runs these is Win2k3. Except for Oracle where HP-UX is the clear leader.
I will say that Vista is a non-starter in this arena...nobody wants it. Heck, not much XP usage either. But there isn't any appreciable Mac presence.

3 posted on 11/24/2007 8:12:26 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Jet noise. The Sound of Freedom. - Go Air Force!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Not yet.


4 posted on 11/24/2007 8:15:42 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Thompson or Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

5 posted on 11/24/2007 8:28:46 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Not yet.

Hey...I'm all for it if Mac can do all the replicating that needs to be done without using all of the hoops Microsoft requires....VDS, VSS and the rest of it.

MS has a hard limit on the length of time a SQL or Exchange database can be frozen by any replication application using VSS....10 seconds. that's it. 10 seconds to freeze the DB and use the Volume Shadowcopy Service to take a snap shot of the database. If it doesn't get done in 10 seconds, VSS takes over and fails the replication. Period.
I hate that crap.

6 posted on 11/24/2007 8:29:02 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Jet noise. The Sound of Freedom. - Go Air Force!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

hmmmmm....source: Ipod News Network....is that like Clinton News Network? All the lies fit to print (or video, in this case)

source check alert!!!!


7 posted on 11/24/2007 8:32:40 AM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

You are right on, of course, but I think they are pretty much talking desktops here.

It should be noted that what IT professionals say on a questionnaire and what the company will actually approve are often two very different things. I can attest to that first hand.


8 posted on 11/24/2007 8:34:25 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Of 961 IT professionals polled, a whopping 90 percent expressed concerns about migrating to Vista.

My company is still using Windows 2000.

We wouldn’t want to jump in to anything hastily.

I can’t see them moving to OS 10 though they are too heavily invested in Window’s other products.

9 posted on 11/24/2007 8:37:57 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Nervous Tick

One of the most fitting graphis re Microslop I’ve seen.

I happen to have a recurring blue screen of death phenomena recent weeks . . . when I get to the bottom of the MS support screen where it asks if the page has been helpful

I always say no.

Because the cause is always: “unknown.”

I talk about how they have abused their customers for over 10 years now . . . and 98% of the time or thereabouts, in my experience, the support is NOT AT ALL HELPFUL and usually infuriating.

I also talk about them doing an increasingly good job of convincing me I should switch to a Mac or Linux.

I sometimes mention how with all their megabucks and megabrains that they should have set up automated software modules to check problems out and fix them quickly, easily and automatically long before this.

I haven’t received any great thanks for such feedback, yet.


10 posted on 11/24/2007 8:38:22 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: L98Fiero
...but I think they are pretty much talking desktops here.

True enough. I generally only get a window into the server end of things. I'd like to get real glimpse of how many Mac clients are on the other side of the data center. Maybe I'll have to start asking.

11 posted on 11/24/2007 8:50:32 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Jet noise. The Sound of Freedom. - Go Air Force!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; Swordmaker; Klutz Dohanger

Religious fight on this thread - what to do instead of Vista.

I have my first Vista system at the compound. Have already set it to dual boot Fedora.

Now if I can learn enough Linux to make a difference.


12 posted on 11/24/2007 8:58:17 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I have worked corporate IT in two large organizations doing server administration. I can say with confidence that they will never go with Macs for general desktop use. They would go strictly Terminal Services first, for end users. FAR more cost effective and easier to manage.

Then there is the “change” factor. End users freak if their desktop icons change. I can only imagine informing 10,000 computer illiterate users that they will be required to learn a completely new OS.


13 posted on 11/24/2007 9:12:39 AM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

>>Macs are currently the most favored alternative to Windows with 28 percent of respondents saying they would most likely to turn to Macs, rather than upgrade to Vista.<<

But what they are mainly doing is not upgrading -either staying with XP or buying new machines.


14 posted on 11/24/2007 9:20:14 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

And don’t forget that pile of sludge that they call Office 2007. To begin with, it’s default settings make its files impossible to read by earlier versions and I still haven’t been able to make Open Office work with them.

And how about a user interface for Word that defaults to double spacing of lines and even the changes to fix it do not persist? An interface so confusing that it doesn’t even have a default place for quick print, and I couldn’t find the normal print button where you can adjust page layout, target printer and the like?

I happily downgraded to Office 2003, even though, for now, it has blown apart Outlook?


15 posted on 11/24/2007 9:22:46 AM PST by Fractal Trader (.)
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I can only imagine informing 10,000 computer illiterate users...

Ahem....the proper term in "Lusers".      =;^D

16 posted on 11/24/2007 9:39:05 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Jet noise. The Sound of Freedom. - Go Air Force!)
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To: texas booster

>> Now if I can learn enough Linux to make a difference.

You will. Armed with persistence and Google, anyone can “learn Linux”.

I did. I still use Windows (XP) for my day-to-day. Some of my software (EDA and data acquisition programming tools) runs only on Windows.

But I have been poking at Linux for about 3 years now — at first out of intrigue, and lately because it’s simply the best (or only) tool for the job. For example, our virtual private server is Linux because that was the best choice; and I’m running a Ubuntu workstation (via VMWare hosted on my XP machine) to build Linux software for our microcontroller product firmware, ‘cause that’s the *only* reasonable way to get ‘er done.

I’m not intending to start a “distro flame war”, but I really like Ubuntu. I tried Fedora but it just never gained any traction in my circumstances.


17 posted on 11/24/2007 10:48:14 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: gondramB

>> But what they are mainly doing is not upgrading -either staying with XP or buying new machines.

+1 on that point


18 posted on 11/24/2007 10:49:18 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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19 posted on 11/24/2007 12:10:24 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Bought a MacBook Pro about 3 wks. ago. Haven’t been doing much but surfing so far.
I now have 1 Mac and 2 Dell Desktops.
The Mac is superior but I haven’t learned where everything is yet.

Going tomorrow for my first one on one lesson.

I plan to replace the Dell’s w/ Macs next year. Tired of MS and all the PC problems.


20 posted on 11/24/2007 12:36:30 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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