Posted on 10/29/2007 4:52:57 PM PDT by dvan
Actually, what I loved so much about the story is that this 11yo wasn't a victim.
"One knows one's society is dying when one is constantly forced to choose between what is legal and what is moral."
Looking at California, all I can say to that is "Amen".
Eaker, you know Worm too?! Small world! :-)
I expect you meant to post "Even though the story is FALSE..."
The story is FALSE! So, I don't know what the point is. But, for the sake of discussion; You might not notice the difference if you were an adrenalin pumped adult male. But, we're talking about an 11 year old girl. That load has about three time the recoil of a trap load. Yes, she would notice because she would have to pick herself back off the floor.
No prob Joe. You post many good ones. This one is good too. Too bad it's not authentic. But anyway, thanks for all the pings. I enjoy them.
Best FReegards,
Barnacle
I don't think so. She might have a sore shoulder and bruises, but she'd lean into the shot, without thinking about it, just like she did on the trap range. I also don't believe the 3 times the recoil. The load would have to be some product of X times as much lead, and Y times as much velocity, where X * Y = 3.
The lightest load I could come up with for 12 gauge 2 3/4 inch hulls, is 1-1/8 oz at 1,145 fps although the 1 oz at 1290 fps is almost the same. The heaviest is 1-1/2 oz at 1,260 fps. (a href=http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-7637473.html>Source) The momentum of the second is 1.3 times that of the first. Thus it should have 1.3 times the recoil, if both are fired from the same gun.
Now I did find this recoil *energy* table, which does indeed indicate that the heavy load has about 3 times the recoil energy of the lightest load. However recoil is more about force, and thus momentum change (momentum == mass (weight) times velocity). than it is about energy. It's not exactly an inelastic collision, so momentum is not conserved. But it starts out close to that.
In Massachusetts, she'd have been raped and murdered because MA law requires all long guns to be unloaded and locked unless you are at least 18. But MA liberals would feel good about themselves anyway.
Heh, I'm an engineer, the longest reports contain the most BS. I've just got done reviewing one of those as part of my job as an "adviser" to an Army organization.
But that's a short little analysis.
Oh I was thinking about in the shower this morning, best place to think about technical stuff IMHO. I misspoke a little, momentum is always conserved (except when velocities aproach the speed of light. Energy is too, but energy has a nasty habit of changing form, from kinetic (mass in motion) to potential (position in a gravity field for example, high up is higher potential energy) and even to heat, in fact always to heat. The effect of recoil on not just the gun, but the gun/girl combination, is not nearly so simple. Force and momentum are related, in fact you've likely seen F=ma, but that's only fo constant mass. If the mass is changing, it's really F=d(mv)/dt. That is, force is the time rate of change of momentum. Good discussion, and not *too* mathmatical is at Physics 1191. Physics 1 for Engineering Technolgy
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