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Just because someone is a little bit nutty, does not mean that he is unpatriotic. The Republicans will need the support of some of those far-right groups, when they seek to stop Hillary in November, 2008. Go easy on Ron Paul and his supporters.
1 posted on 10/23/2007 10:02:27 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Many of the Paul supporters will be voting for Hitlery when Paul fades back into the Texas scrub.


2 posted on 10/23/2007 10:03:59 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: ComtedeMaistre

What I like the most about Ron Paul is that he is the only GOP candidate who would, if elected, have the courage to tell us the truth about what’s going on at Area 51.

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3 posted on 10/23/2007 10:05:51 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Libertarianism is applied autism)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Some might be, and some definitely are not. Silly question, since “ron paul supporter” is not a fungible commodity.


4 posted on 10/23/2007 10:05:54 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
LoL, now this is funny. I found that Ronulans think they are the most everything. They are the most conservative, the most constitutionally pure, the most caring about our troops.. I am waiting for them to start running around chanting Paullla Akbar
7 posted on 10/23/2007 10:08:37 AM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Ha!

I believe the real question is ... can Ron Paul supporters find enough time in their harried schedule of doobies and panty-raids to actually cast a vote?

It never ceases to amaze me how much attention a group of stoned college kids - with nothing better to do than spam internet polls between bong hits - can get if they make noise.

This is just silly.

H
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8 posted on 10/23/2007 10:08:50 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

It does Paul no good when his supporters pick up the tactics of the Ross Perot and Lyndon LaRouche crowds.


10 posted on 10/23/2007 10:12:34 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. "What happens if neutrinos have mass?")
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Speaking of those most patriotic Ron Paul supporters. Check this out.
12 posted on 10/23/2007 10:17:34 AM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

No doubt some are - Ron Paul gets a bum rap on FR, but a lot of it is his own damn fault. If he directed a significant fraction of the energy he puts into his strange pacifism ideas to the REST of his platform (which is otherwise exclusively ultra-conservative), I wouldn’t feel so bad. His campaign has been truly aggravating for myself (having sympathies for, bordering on a desire to join, the JBS) to watch.


13 posted on 10/23/2007 10:18:29 AM PDT by M203M4 (The Tancredo, Thompson, and Hunter wing of the party - preventing the Rs from Whigging out.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

All those far-right supporters are far outnumbered by the nutroots. I promise you one thing....when Paul loses the nomination in a landslide, most of those Paul voters will vote for Hillary Clinton. Some will vote third party like the Libertarians, but most will vote for the Democrats.


15 posted on 10/23/2007 10:21:31 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: ComtedeMaistre
They are beginning to remind me of the LaRouche crowd...Scary.


16 posted on 10/23/2007 10:21:37 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
The Republicans will need the support of some of those far-right groups, when they seek to stop Hillary in November, 2008. To comment on if we need them, I direct you to this:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=28039

I think every Ron Paul supporter who is interviewed for TV, who writes a letter to the editor, or writes in a blog needs to make it very clear that we will NOT be supporting the GOP candidate if it is not Ron Paul.
No other candidate has the support that is not willing to hold their nose and vote the lesser of two evils to beat Hillary except Ron Paul....

We will write Ron Paul in, but no other candidate deserves our vote....

if they do not give RP an equal playing field for the nomination, then he will run as a third party and/or support a third party candidate...

I sure as hell am not going to vote for any of the other Republicans. I may see who is running Green or possibly Democrat if it isn't Hillary.

19 posted on 10/23/2007 10:25:01 AM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Unless “patriotic” is a previously unknown synonym for “insane”, then, no, Ron Paul supporters are not the most patriotic Americans.

Paul’slam(e) - the religion of choice when you love the craziness of Islam, but prefer spamming internet polls to murdering innocent people


22 posted on 10/23/2007 10:36:56 AM PDT by Master Shake
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To: ComtedeMaistre; mnehrling
Just because someone is a little bit nutty, does not mean that he is unpatriotic. The Republicans will need the support of some of those far-right groups, when they seek to stop Hillary in November, 2008. Go easy on Ron Paul and his supporters.

The Republican Party needs the support of white supremecists, truthers and code pinkers to stop Hillary? Don't think so. Ronald Reagan wouldn't have bought into your arguement, he would have condemned them. The left, the media, they'd love, or is it evol, your suggestion that the Republican party embrace hate.

Mr. Nathaniel J. Friedman
August 23, 1980 Dear Mr. Friedman:

Just a line to thank you very much for your letter to the editor of the Los Angeles Times. It was kind and generous of you to do this, and I am most grateful.

It wasn’t until I left the South and was in New York that I learned the Klan had endorsed me. I immediately made it plain in a press conference that I do not want such an endorsement and that I repudiate it and everything the Klan stands for. I guess Mr. Young didn’t pay much attention to that.

Again, my heartfelt thanks.

Best regards,
Ron

-----------------

April 30, 1984

Dear Morris:

While in China, I have been distressed to learn that some individuals back home have questioned whether my views on the Ku Klux Klan have somehow changed since 1980. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In 1980, I said that I have no tolerance for what the Klan represents, and would have nothing to do with any groups of that type. If anything, my feelings on this subject have only grown stronger. The politics of racial hatred and religious bigotry practiced by the Klan and others have no place in this country, and are destructive of the values for which America has always stood. Those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant doctrines of hate they espouse.

I firmly believe that there is no room for partisanship on this question. Democrats and Republicans alike must be resolute in disassociating ourselves from any group or individual whose political philosophy consists only of racial or religious intolerance, whose arguments are supported only by intimidation or threats of violence.

We must, and will, continue our unified rejection of such elements of hate in our political life, for while there are many issues which divide us, it is fundamental principles such as this which will always draw us together.

Sincerely,
Ronald Reagan

[The Honorable Morris B. Abram, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, 1121 Vermont Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20425]

Does the RP need to embrace the support of indicted drug dealers as Paul does too?

Marc Emery agrees his campaign-organizing effort for some 2008 U.S. presidential candidates is a bit unorthodox. He's Canadian, his political base of operations is the B.C. Marijuana Party in Vancouver, and he can be arrested if he sets foot into America.

Still, "We have a saying up here: 'American politics is far too important to leave to the Americans,'" says Emery, 49, who is trying to raise cross-border support for dark-horse White House candidates. He likes liberal Democrat Dennis Kucinich well enough, but prefers Republican Ron Paul, a longtime libertarian who, like Emery, opposes the U.S. war on drugs.

Paul's communications director, Jesse Benton, says the fledgling campaign welcomes all support. But Emery shouldn't necessarily expect amnesty from a Paul administration. "You would see a cooling of the federal war on drugs [under Paul]," Benton says. "But Ron believes in the rule of law, and I don't think this guy should look to Ron for him getting off scot-free."


24 posted on 10/23/2007 10:43:56 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

30 posted on 10/23/2007 11:48:21 AM PDT by lormand (Was once a union member and ex-democRAT, then came Reagan)
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EXCLUSIVE: SPECIFIC CONTRIBUTION BY LEADING NEO-NAZI TO RON PAUL CAMPAIGN IDENTIFIED

http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/25/rpb1/

LONESTARTIMES.COM EXCLUSIVE!!!

Must credit LoneStarTimes.com!!!

That means YOU, mainstream media producer/reporter/outlet!

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A LoneStarTimes.com investigation has conclusively established that a leading figure in the American neo-Nazi / White-Supremacist movement has provided financial support to Ron Paul’s 2008 Presidential campaign.

The individual in question is Don Black, the founder, owner and operator of Stormfront, a “white power” website that both professional journalists and watch-dog groups have identified as the premier English-language racist/hate-site on the Internet.

Previous LST posts have focused on banner “widgets” appearing on the front-page of Stormfront. It is important to emphasize that these are NOT “advertisements” placed on Stormfront BY the Paul campaign, but rather publicly-available graphics that Stormfront’s owner has chosen to place himself, with links directly to Paul’s donation page.

Nevertheless, LST has in the past several weeks raised a series of questions for the Paul campaign; specifically–

  1. Can Paul confirm that the donation widgets appearing on Stormfront are the result of the site owner’s actions, not the campaign’s?
  2. Will Paul take measures to block Stormfront as a referring URL to his own website, so that no future donations can possibly flow into his campaign from a site that serves as the on-line nexus of neo-Nazism?
  3. Will Paul ask his own web-staff to trace past donations that were made by anyone arriving at his campaign’s webpage from Stormfront, so that these contributions can be rejected?
  4. Will Paul explore if there are any legal actions available to try to remove his donation widget from Stormfront, and if so pursue them?
  5. At the very least, will Paul personally state publicly, vigorously and unmistakably that he rejects the support of white supremacists, and that he will not knowingly tolerate their involvement with his campaign in any form or to any degree?

LoneStarTimes.com’s managing editor Matt Bramanti left multiple messages last week for officials in Paul’s national campaign press office seeking comment. None were returned.

In the interim, a number of grassroots supporters of Paul’s campaign– including many honorable and regular readers of LST– have argued that…

  • It is unfair to hold Paul responsible for receiving political support from racists/neo-Nazis if that support was unsolicited by Paul;
  • Paul hasn’t, in fact, solicited white-supremacist support; AND
  • Paul’s campaign has no practical way of knowing whether or not a specific financial contribution made has come from a neo-Nazi.

These abstract debates are now moot– a contribution to the Paul campaign by a known white-supremacist has been identified.

The evidence is as follows:

  • Black proudly and openly identifies himself as Stormfront’s guiding hand, and publishes a contact address on the Internet– PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach, FL, 33405
  • A search by LST of public databases indicates that there is only one “Don Black” residing in West Palm Beach, Florida, zip code 33405
  • A 7/16/01 USA Today article identifies Black’s wife as being named “Chloe”
  • That same article identifies Chloe as being the ex-wife of close Black associate and former “Grand Wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke
  • Minutes of a 9/7/07 City of West Palm Beach code-compliance hearing identify “Chloe H. Duke” as owning a residential property located at 203 Lakeland Drive
  • According to Federal Election Commission records, on 9/30/07 the Ron Paul presidential campaign received a $500 contribution from a Mr. Don Black, who lists his address as 203 Lakeland Drive and identifies his occupation as “self-employed/website manager”

In light of these facts, we believe our previously asked questions continue to have merit.

A final note– it is traditional in political campaigns for candidates to return contributions from “toxic” donors once sufficient public scrutiny and outcry has been generated.

The difficulty in this instance is that if Ron Paul returns these funds to Mr. Black, all he will have done is given a neo-Nazi $500 more dollars with which to spread his psychotic bile.

We would therefore like to suggest that the Ron Paul campaign donate Black’s $500 to any of the following worthy recipients–

  • United States Holocaust Memorial Museum ($500 would make Dr. Paul a “sustaining member”)
  • One Family Fund (which works to rebuild the shattered lives of Israeli victims of Arab terror; $500 would make Dr. Paul a “healer”)
  • Aish Ha’Torah (dynamic Jewish educational foundation; Aish donations are set according to funky Kabbalah-based giving levels–$18, $36, $180, etc.–but for $500 Dr. Paul could simultaneously become a “Friend of the Wall” and a “Gate of Wisdom,” which would entitle him to both a Sterling Silver Menorah bookmark with certificate of authenticity from the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, and a Western Wall Images CD with over 500 unique photos of life at the Western Wall– perfect “re-gifting” items for the fast-approaching Hanukkah season)

We try to be helpful.

Matt Bramanti, Managing Editor (Gentile Stooge)
David Benzion, Publisher (Z.O.G. Chapter #1948 President)
LoneStarTimes.com


32 posted on 10/25/2007 5:04:26 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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