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Are Ron Paul Supporters the Most Patriotic Americans?
10/23/2007 | comtedemaistre

Posted on 10/23/2007 10:02:25 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

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To: jack_napier

>> I know of several Ron Paul supporters who are neither college students, nor drug users. This is a childish characterization that’s not rooted in anything empirical.

It was a joke. Lighten up.

H


21 posted on 10/23/2007 10:29:02 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Unless “patriotic” is a previously unknown synonym for “insane”, then, no, Ron Paul supporters are not the most patriotic Americans.

Paul’slam(e) - the religion of choice when you love the craziness of Islam, but prefer spamming internet polls to murdering innocent people


22 posted on 10/23/2007 10:36:56 AM PDT by Master Shake
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To: mnehrling

True enough.

H


23 posted on 10/23/2007 10:40:34 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: ComtedeMaistre; mnehrling
Just because someone is a little bit nutty, does not mean that he is unpatriotic. The Republicans will need the support of some of those far-right groups, when they seek to stop Hillary in November, 2008. Go easy on Ron Paul and his supporters.

The Republican Party needs the support of white supremecists, truthers and code pinkers to stop Hillary? Don't think so. Ronald Reagan wouldn't have bought into your arguement, he would have condemned them. The left, the media, they'd love, or is it evol, your suggestion that the Republican party embrace hate.

Mr. Nathaniel J. Friedman
August 23, 1980 Dear Mr. Friedman:

Just a line to thank you very much for your letter to the editor of the Los Angeles Times. It was kind and generous of you to do this, and I am most grateful.

It wasn’t until I left the South and was in New York that I learned the Klan had endorsed me. I immediately made it plain in a press conference that I do not want such an endorsement and that I repudiate it and everything the Klan stands for. I guess Mr. Young didn’t pay much attention to that.

Again, my heartfelt thanks.

Best regards,
Ron

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April 30, 1984

Dear Morris:

While in China, I have been distressed to learn that some individuals back home have questioned whether my views on the Ku Klux Klan have somehow changed since 1980. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In 1980, I said that I have no tolerance for what the Klan represents, and would have nothing to do with any groups of that type. If anything, my feelings on this subject have only grown stronger. The politics of racial hatred and religious bigotry practiced by the Klan and others have no place in this country, and are destructive of the values for which America has always stood. Those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant doctrines of hate they espouse.

I firmly believe that there is no room for partisanship on this question. Democrats and Republicans alike must be resolute in disassociating ourselves from any group or individual whose political philosophy consists only of racial or religious intolerance, whose arguments are supported only by intimidation or threats of violence.

We must, and will, continue our unified rejection of such elements of hate in our political life, for while there are many issues which divide us, it is fundamental principles such as this which will always draw us together.

Sincerely,
Ronald Reagan

[The Honorable Morris B. Abram, U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, 1121 Vermont Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20425]

Does the RP need to embrace the support of indicted drug dealers as Paul does too?

Marc Emery agrees his campaign-organizing effort for some 2008 U.S. presidential candidates is a bit unorthodox. He's Canadian, his political base of operations is the B.C. Marijuana Party in Vancouver, and he can be arrested if he sets foot into America.

Still, "We have a saying up here: 'American politics is far too important to leave to the Americans,'" says Emery, 49, who is trying to raise cross-border support for dark-horse White House candidates. He likes liberal Democrat Dennis Kucinich well enough, but prefers Republican Ron Paul, a longtime libertarian who, like Emery, opposes the U.S. war on drugs.

Paul's communications director, Jesse Benton, says the fledgling campaign welcomes all support. But Emery shouldn't necessarily expect amnesty from a Paul administration. "You would see a cooling of the federal war on drugs [under Paul]," Benton says. "But Ron believes in the rule of law, and I don't think this guy should look to Ron for him getting off scot-free."


24 posted on 10/23/2007 10:43:56 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: mnehrling

The answer, of course Ron Paul supporters are the most patriotic Americans, just ask one.


25 posted on 10/23/2007 10:44:45 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson

>> The answer, of course Ron Paul supporters are the most patriotic Americans, just ask one.

Actually - its a trick question ... you have failed your first test of the ReLOVEution. You will be purged.

Ron Paul supporters aren’t simply the most patriotic Americans - they are the ONLY true Americans. Supporters of any other candidate are traitors to the Constitution, and neo-conservative globalist conspirators.

America cannot return to greatness until it sticks its head in the sand!

The Ron Paul campaign -

... where sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting “LALALALALALALALA!!!” qualifies as a foreign policy ...

because the founders said so.

H


26 posted on 10/23/2007 10:54:53 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: SJackson

“The Republican Party needs the support of white supremecists, truthers and code pinkers to stop Hillary?”

Labelling right-wing Americans as “white supremacists” is a liberal stereotype. When the initiator of the thread listed far-right groups in his post, he did not mention any white supremacist organizations. Do you consider Birchers to be white supremacists? They have black and Jewish members.

Far-right organizations are mostly those that believe in strictly interpreting the constitution. There are those who believe that the income tax is unconstitutional. There are multiracial militia groups that are strong advocates of gun ownership. Do you regard them as white supremacists?

By the way, the John Birch society endorsed Goldwater in 1964, and Reagan in his 1966 campaign for California governor. Neither man rejected the endorsement.


27 posted on 10/23/2007 11:14:41 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

I think you missed this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1915119/posts


28 posted on 10/23/2007 11:20:46 AM PDT by mnehring (Who is Chris Peden? http://www.chrispeden.org/)
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To: pinochet

White supremecists are the ones frequently criticized on FR, including a thread today. Along with truthers. There’s a simple solution for Paul, condemn their ideology, like Reagan and Bush I did, and reject their support. But his campaign won’t do that. The criticism is legitimate.


29 posted on 10/23/2007 11:22:33 AM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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30 posted on 10/23/2007 11:48:21 AM PDT by lormand (Was once a union member and ex-democRAT, then came Reagan)
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To: DesScorp

Paul supporters are 2:1:1, republican, independent/libertarain/ democrat. or even 3 or 4 to 1 depending on what survey/poll you look at. Most of his supporters are principled republicans, but no other candidate has as much chance of pulling all the other voters, which will be a key help in the general election. Provided we get there of course.. :)


31 posted on 10/23/2007 12:29:58 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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EXCLUSIVE: SPECIFIC CONTRIBUTION BY LEADING NEO-NAZI TO RON PAUL CAMPAIGN IDENTIFIED

http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/25/rpb1/

LONESTARTIMES.COM EXCLUSIVE!!!

Must credit LoneStarTimes.com!!!

That means YOU, mainstream media producer/reporter/outlet!

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A LoneStarTimes.com investigation has conclusively established that a leading figure in the American neo-Nazi / White-Supremacist movement has provided financial support to Ron Paul’s 2008 Presidential campaign.

The individual in question is Don Black, the founder, owner and operator of Stormfront, a “white power” website that both professional journalists and watch-dog groups have identified as the premier English-language racist/hate-site on the Internet.

Previous LST posts have focused on banner “widgets” appearing on the front-page of Stormfront. It is important to emphasize that these are NOT “advertisements” placed on Stormfront BY the Paul campaign, but rather publicly-available graphics that Stormfront’s owner has chosen to place himself, with links directly to Paul’s donation page.

Nevertheless, LST has in the past several weeks raised a series of questions for the Paul campaign; specifically–

  1. Can Paul confirm that the donation widgets appearing on Stormfront are the result of the site owner’s actions, not the campaign’s?
  2. Will Paul take measures to block Stormfront as a referring URL to his own website, so that no future donations can possibly flow into his campaign from a site that serves as the on-line nexus of neo-Nazism?
  3. Will Paul ask his own web-staff to trace past donations that were made by anyone arriving at his campaign’s webpage from Stormfront, so that these contributions can be rejected?
  4. Will Paul explore if there are any legal actions available to try to remove his donation widget from Stormfront, and if so pursue them?
  5. At the very least, will Paul personally state publicly, vigorously and unmistakably that he rejects the support of white supremacists, and that he will not knowingly tolerate their involvement with his campaign in any form or to any degree?

LoneStarTimes.com’s managing editor Matt Bramanti left multiple messages last week for officials in Paul’s national campaign press office seeking comment. None were returned.

In the interim, a number of grassroots supporters of Paul’s campaign– including many honorable and regular readers of LST– have argued that…

  • It is unfair to hold Paul responsible for receiving political support from racists/neo-Nazis if that support was unsolicited by Paul;
  • Paul hasn’t, in fact, solicited white-supremacist support; AND
  • Paul’s campaign has no practical way of knowing whether or not a specific financial contribution made has come from a neo-Nazi.

These abstract debates are now moot– a contribution to the Paul campaign by a known white-supremacist has been identified.

The evidence is as follows:

  • Black proudly and openly identifies himself as Stormfront’s guiding hand, and publishes a contact address on the Internet– PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach, FL, 33405
  • A search by LST of public databases indicates that there is only one “Don Black” residing in West Palm Beach, Florida, zip code 33405
  • A 7/16/01 USA Today article identifies Black’s wife as being named “Chloe”
  • That same article identifies Chloe as being the ex-wife of close Black associate and former “Grand Wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke
  • Minutes of a 9/7/07 City of West Palm Beach code-compliance hearing identify “Chloe H. Duke” as owning a residential property located at 203 Lakeland Drive
  • According to Federal Election Commission records, on 9/30/07 the Ron Paul presidential campaign received a $500 contribution from a Mr. Don Black, who lists his address as 203 Lakeland Drive and identifies his occupation as “self-employed/website manager”

In light of these facts, we believe our previously asked questions continue to have merit.

A final note– it is traditional in political campaigns for candidates to return contributions from “toxic” donors once sufficient public scrutiny and outcry has been generated.

The difficulty in this instance is that if Ron Paul returns these funds to Mr. Black, all he will have done is given a neo-Nazi $500 more dollars with which to spread his psychotic bile.

We would therefore like to suggest that the Ron Paul campaign donate Black’s $500 to any of the following worthy recipients–

  • United States Holocaust Memorial Museum ($500 would make Dr. Paul a “sustaining member”)
  • One Family Fund (which works to rebuild the shattered lives of Israeli victims of Arab terror; $500 would make Dr. Paul a “healer”)
  • Aish Ha’Torah (dynamic Jewish educational foundation; Aish donations are set according to funky Kabbalah-based giving levels–$18, $36, $180, etc.–but for $500 Dr. Paul could simultaneously become a “Friend of the Wall” and a “Gate of Wisdom,” which would entitle him to both a Sterling Silver Menorah bookmark with certificate of authenticity from the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, and a Western Wall Images CD with over 500 unique photos of life at the Western Wall– perfect “re-gifting” items for the fast-approaching Hanukkah season)

We try to be helpful.

Matt Bramanti, Managing Editor (Gentile Stooge)
David Benzion, Publisher (Z.O.G. Chapter #1948 President)
LoneStarTimes.com


32 posted on 10/25/2007 5:04:26 PM PDT by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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