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To: js1138; DaveLoneRanger
I feel that you have made a respectable showing overall in this debate, but that the power of evidence and reasoning still support my side.

What dimwitted bunch of fools the Thomas More lawyers were for hiring Behe as an expert witness when they could have had you and Ken Ham. Congratulations on your self proclamation.

Dave ignored the whuppin' he got from Ryan. Perhaps he was not even aware of the subtleties of Ryan's posts, and the non-sequiturs he posted in reply.

I pointed some of them out to him, but he ignored the comments I made here.

Weave and dodge! Now you see me, now you don't! Creation "science" in action. Very creative perhaps, but no science.

This scientific "debate" amounted to Dover II.

Creationism and ID have not been faring well of late in their efforts to displace real science. Same as always, eh?

55 posted on 11/15/2007 9:15:47 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
I particularly liked this response by DLR: (all emphases mine)

Ryan: If you were to take two of each kind, what would you do with colonial animals like ants and termites?

DLR: This is an intriguing question, one that I haven't been asked, nor have I ever seen addressed before. The plain answer is, I don't know. I wasn't there. Some creationists speculate that in settling down for the long haul, God caused many of the animals to hibernate. Other creationists speculate that insects don't technically qualify as creatures that breathe through nostrils, and so didn't qualify as guests on the Ark. Some suggest they could have survived on large masses of debris such as plant matter. It's possible their eggs could have survived until the flood waters receded.

It seems an altogether minor point to get hung up on, since there is no clear answer. Obviously, they're still around.

Aargh! It's a minor point since "there is no clear answer."

56 posted on 11/16/2007 5:20:09 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Coyoteman; DaveLoneRanger
==Weave and dodge! Now you see me, now you don’t!

People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, Wiley. I’m still waiting for you to *reappear* and defend your conspiracy-to-create-a-theocracy charge against the Discovery Institute.

57 posted on 11/16/2007 4:22:11 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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