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The plane crash that muted Southern rock
Florida Times-Union ^ | October 19, 2007 | ROGER BULL,

Posted on 10/19/2007 10:21:26 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Thirty years ago today, a rented plane took off from Greenville, S.C., headed for Baton Rouge, La. Just before dark, just before it reached the Louisiana line, the plane ran out of fuel and sank toward the Mississippi landscape below.

It first grazed the tops of the pine trees.

"It was like the sound of a billion baseball bats beating the side of the plane." Lynyrd Skynyrd bass player Leon Wilkeson described in an interview a decade ago.

The plane crashed down through the trees to the ground, breaking apart as it went. In the twisted, broken pieces of that 1947 Convair lay what was left of Jacksonville's greatest musical legacy.

Though there were 26 people on the plane, only six died that evening, Oct. 20, 1977. But killed along with the two pilots were three band members and the road manager for Lynyrd Skynyrd.

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: lynyrdskynyrd; planecrash; rockandroll; skynyrd; southernrock
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I am not sure...


61 posted on 10/20/2007 6:12:52 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Hardastarboard

August 27, 1990


62 posted on 10/20/2007 6:17:11 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: Shooter 2.5

They also did “Gimmie back my bullets”. These boys were not libs.


63 posted on 10/20/2007 6:21:25 AM PDT by Into the Vortex
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To: Into the Vortex

It has nothing to do with firearms.

This album referenced to the bullet you received if you got dramatic sales increase on the top 10 chart. This is the namesake for the song “Gimme Back My Bullets.”

Life is so strange when its changin, yes indeed
Well Ive seen the hard times and the pressures been on me
But I keep on workin like the workin man do
And Ive got my act together, gonna walk all over you

(chorus)
Gimme back my bullets
Put em back where they belong
Aint foolin around cause I done had my fun
Aint gonna see no more damage done
Gimme back my bullets

Sweet talkin people done ran me out of town
And I drank enough whiskey to float a battleship around
But Im leavin this game one step ahead of you
And you will not hear me cry cause I do not sing the blues

(chorus)
Gimme back my bullets
Put em back where they belong
Aint foolin around cause I done had my fun
Aint gonna see no more damage done
Gimme back, gimme back my bullets
Oh, put em back... where they belong

Been up and down since I turned seventeen
Well Ive been on top, and then it seems I lost my dream
But I got it back, Im feelin better everyday
Tell all those pencil pushers, better get out of my way

(chorus)
Gimme back my bullets
Put em back where they belong
Aint foolin around, cause I done had my fun
Aint gonna see no more damage done
Gimme back, gimme back my bullets
Oh put em back where they belong
Gimme back my bullets


64 posted on 10/20/2007 6:32:23 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: ByDesign

You don’t see this level of talent anymore - no flashy light shows, stages, costumes, or gymnastics, no corporate BS, no commerical junk, just a bunch of guys playing their hearts out, playing music they wrote and loved.


Very well said.

Ronnie Van Zandt was a heroic figure to a lot of people who grew up in the seventies, and his band consistently stole the stage from the Stones and the Who and whomever else had the misfortune to have them open their shows. As Ronnie would day: “When I’ve got my act together, gonna walk all over you”

Hard to believe this world has gone thirty years without them.


65 posted on 10/20/2007 6:37:12 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I’ll play my L/S CD in honor of this great band. My kids cringe when my grandkids tell them I play L/S for them. The girls love “That Smell”.......:)


66 posted on 10/20/2007 6:37:33 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Yeah, new wave killed disco, not rock. Straight up rock bands had a hard time in the late 70s early 80s. Led Zep disbanded after Bonham’s death, Aerosmith all but disbanded until they did that remake of Walk This Way with Run DMC, Alman Bros disbanded in 79. I could go on.


67 posted on 10/20/2007 6:38:58 AM PDT by Delacon (Don't Immanentize the Eschaton.)
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To: DogandPonyShow

I saw them once in the time frame, in Louisville, and they were drinking black Jack from the bottle and physically fighting with each other on stage. They stunk.

Despite this, I went and saw them a year or two later, probably a year or two at most before the plane crash, and it was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.


68 posted on 10/20/2007 6:42:05 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
MR. LENARD SKYNYRD HAS ALWAYS BEEN MITT'S FAVORATE. MITT SAID THE DAY HE HEARD OF THE ACCIDENT HE PULLED OVER THE ROAD, HELD HIS WIFES HAND AND SAID I SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT SO THAT THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

Sorry, I just wanted to beat the Mittbots.

Anyways, for this pasty white Yankee, I spent a lot of time (like 4 semesters) at UMass, listening to the boys( live versions only) and then passing out in a bean bag like a opiated turtle on its back. There might of been some overconsumption involved. I can't remember. Well, some good came out of it. They got me out of UMass and into the Army and a free four year tour of the South.

69 posted on 10/20/2007 6:49:21 AM PDT by Leisler (RNC, Rino National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Lancey Howard

They’re worth seeing even today. I’ve seen them a couple times in the last 6-8 years.


70 posted on 10/20/2007 6:51:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: El Gato

Otis Redding, Jim Croce, Randy Rhodes


71 posted on 10/20/2007 6:53:25 AM PDT by Delacon (Don't Immanentize the Eschaton.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
OK, thanks. THAT just killed an hour! ;)

Good stuff.

72 posted on 10/20/2007 7:03:44 AM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No miss, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: LouD

I actually own that version; I hear it’s worth something now days.


73 posted on 10/20/2007 7:27:12 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Delacon

Buddy Holly, Big Bopper. Richie Valens. Jim Reeves, Hawkshaw Hawkins, Cowboy Copus and Patsy Cline. Oh, yeah.. Kyu Sakamoto. Look the last one up.


74 posted on 10/20/2007 8:00:34 AM PDT by bleach
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To: Dick Vomer

I’ll always love this song:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5311489382454486121&q=.38+special&total=1014&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7


75 posted on 10/20/2007 8:23:24 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: Bulldawg Fan
This is from the Wikipedia entry:

The official NTSB accident report reads, "The National Transportation Safety Board determined that the probable cause of this accident was fuel exhaustion and total loss of power from both engines due to crew inattention to fuel supply. Contributing to the fuel exhaustion were inadequate flight planning and an engine malfunction of undetermined nature in the right engine which resulted in higher-than-normal fuel consumption."

It was known that the right engine's magneto — a small power generator that provides spark and timing for the engine — had been malfunctioning (Powell, among others, spoke of seeing flames shooting out of the right engine on a trip just prior to the accident), and that pilots McCreary and Gray had intended to repair the damaged part when the travelling party arrived in Baton Rouge. It is possible that the damaged magneto fooled the pilots into creating an exceptionally rich fuel mixture, causing the Convair to run out of fuel.

It was suggested on the VH-1 Behind The Music profile on Skynyrd that this was the case, or that the pilots, panicking when the right engine failed, accidentally dumped the remaining fuel. Pyle maintains in the Howard Stern interview that the fuel gauge in the older model plane malfunctioned and the pilots had failed to manually check the tanks before taking off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynyrd_Skynyrd

76 posted on 10/20/2007 8:26:45 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: bleach

Kyu Sakamoto? Digging down a little deep(no pun intended) there aren’t you? :)


77 posted on 10/20/2007 8:29:30 AM PDT by Delacon (Don't Immanentize the Eschaton.)
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To: BunnySlippers
I wish I got to see Blue Cheer.
I do still have my 'Outsideinside' LP, though, along with about a thousand other records from the '60s and '70s. Now if only I still had a working turntable....

78 posted on 10/20/2007 8:31:27 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Leisler

When did you graduate? My best friend is a UMass grad (1984 or so) and he’s told me some stories about their politics.


79 posted on 10/20/2007 8:34:33 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: RightOnline

Yeah, I have it too. I googled it, and market price seems to be $75-$80 or so in good condition. I have the European version, which I think they continued to sell with the original art, so it may not be worth much. Only the U.S. version had the flames removed.


80 posted on 10/20/2007 8:34:54 AM PDT by LouD
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