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To: TChris

In the extreme delivery one would think hes nuts. BUT...
There is a modicum of truth to it. We no longer allow kids to play in the mud. We take anti-biotics for every little thing.
We use anti-bacterial soap and hand cleaners.
None of the above is actually good for you, and has led us to the infections that cant be beat today.
Too many antibiotics have led to strains of bacteria that are resistant to treatment. I no longer let my doctor give them to my kids for everything. Antibacterial soaps are proving to be more bad than good.
Years ago I had an aunt who would keep her kids out of the mud, and indoors alot. We kids who got dirty and swapped germs by sharing sodas and food were healthy. Her kids were always sick.
A persons immune system needs to be able to fight and build up. Thats the premise behind vaccinations...introduce a bug in amounts that the body can build up tolerance. By not allowing our bodies to do what they do naturally we are expanding the risks for resistant bacteria.
So hes not entirely nuts. Just a little.


85 posted on 10/18/2007 11:58:53 AM PDT by donnab (saving liberals brains....one moron at a time.)
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To: donnab
There is a modicum of truth to it.

I didn't find much...

We no longer allow kids to play in the mud.

We don't? I'm certainly not included in that "we".

We take anti-biotics for every little thing.

Again, not true in my case.

We use anti-bacterial soap and hand cleaners.

Yes, but recent studies have shown that plain soap and water accomplish the same thing. Are those supposedly bad too?

None of the above is actually good for you, and has led us to the infections that cant be beat today.

Really? Have you checked the infection, disease and death rates of Western, modern cultures with the best hygiene compared to those with lower standards?

Cleanliness is a good thing.

Too many antibiotics have led to strains of bacteria that are resistant to treatment. I no longer let my doctor give them to my kids for everything.

Antibiotics are usually mis-prescribed at the insistence of the patient or the patient's parents. You're correct that their misuse is a major problem. But that does not mean that antibiotics are a bad thing.

Antibacterial soaps are proving to be more bad than good.

That's the thinking of some. I believe the jury's still out on this one.

Years ago I had an aunt who would keep her kids out of the mud, and indoors alot. We kids who got dirty and swapped germs by sharing sodas and food were healthy. Her kids were always sick.

A single example doesn't prove a thing. That's a common misunderstanding on FR. I could use experiences from my life to reach very incorrect conclusions if I tried that:

A good friend named Leah died of Lou Gherig's Disease. My older brother's nasty ex-wife was named Leah. The name Leah should therefore be avoided at all costs.

The VW pickup I drove for a few years broke down frequently. My Dodge Durango has never left me walking. Therefore, all VWs are junk and all Dodges are reliable.

You get the point. A single experience, while very real and true, doesn't tell you much of anything about larger trends.

A persons immune system needs to be able to fight and build up. Thats the premise behind vaccinations...introduce a bug in amounts that the body can build up tolerance. By not allowing our bodies to do what they do naturally we are expanding the risks for resistant bacteria.

Even with good hygiene and antibiotics, people will come into contact with plenty of germs in their lives. The idea is to try and knock out the nastiest ones, the ones that frequently don't give the victim a chance to build immunity, so they stop killing people. That's what vaccination is about, and it's a Very Good Thing.

So hes not entirely nuts. Just a little.

Nope, he's nuts. MRSA is a very nasty bug. It kills people. Lots of people. Naively ignoring the threat and hoping that naked faith will save anyone is dangerous and foolish.

Perhaps the guy hasn't heard the story of the people in the flood, where numerous potential rescuers are repeatedly turned away, until the people eventually drown.

Most of the time, the blessings of Heaven are delivered by ordinary people. ...such as doctors and nurses.

118 posted on 10/18/2007 12:17:55 PM PDT by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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