Earliest Scots Braved Ice Age Conditions

Discovery.com ^ | 10-05-07 | Jennifer Viegas

[Renfield]

There is a video at the article site.

[Renfield]

Ping

[xcamel]

However... “Daves” and “Steves” were lounging on the beaches quite a bit further south....

/satire

[Renfield]

Hope you have a day job....;<)

[shekkian]

Great Scot!!!

[blam]

13,000 years ago you could have walked from Scotland to Finland. The North Sea wasn’t there yet.

[blam]

Stone Age Sites Found Under North Sea (8,000BC)

[muawiyah]

No doubt you and I could but I bet most of the other posters couldn't have. First time they fell in a cold crick and got their toesies frozen they'd been well on the way to being dead.

That capability had to have been developed earlier during the period of maximum glaciation ~ just about the time they figured out how far they could hunt seal along the Southern edge of the winter sea-ice (which turned out to be all the way to America).

Love those spear points ~ did that guy say "arrow head"? There were no bows, no arrows, so no "arrow heads" ~ just "spear points" at that time.

[blam]

The Red Paint People (?)

[muawiyah]

May be closer ~ I’m waiting on definitive stuff on these guys. The best stuff is probably just off shore, but it’ll turn up when the ice comes back.

[SunkenCiv]

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[ASA Vet]

Great Scot!!!

[null and void]

Ice Age + Kilts = Not-so-Great Scot

[Knitting A Conundrum]

This is cool...I have Orkney ancestry...The men in the family have tested out as Haploid group R1a, which shows up in high proportion in the Orkneys

Interesting quick read article on Wikipedia about how this may signal an early group settling there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1a_%28Y-DNA%29

[WoofDog123]

would orkney have been land-connected to the modern north coast in this time period? I assume it would in fact have been ice-connected.

Hard to imagine it being anything but solid ice at that point in time regardless.

[blam]

Above map, 18,000 year ago.

R1a's spend the Last Glacial Maximum(18-23,000 years ago) in the Ukranian Ice Age refuge. The above map shows the direction of migration at about 12,000 years go.

There is much debate presently as to which DNA group, R1a or I1a, are the 'Viking Gene.' In my opinion, it's both.

The Orkneys where the 'jumping-off' point for the Vikings on the way to Iceland.

[blam]

"Ice Age + Kilts = Not-so-Great Scot"

The kilt is fairly recent in Scotland. (1700's I believe?)

In fact, Mel Gibson made the deliberate error of including it in the wardrobe when he made the movie Braveheart.

[null and void]

It was a shrinkage joke.

Don't you know about shrinkage?

[blam]

"Don't you know about shrinkage? "

Nah. I have Sami genes.

[null and void]

Lucky you.

I have Mr. Shyturtle...