Posted on 10/05/2007 3:39:13 PM PDT by processing please hold
Socialists claim that is a "reasonable restriction" on a 'natural right' to keep and bear arms, - whereas conservatives know that such 'records' are infringements on our inalienable rights.
The point is that inalienable rights (such as our rights to life, liberty, or property) can have no restrictions without individual due process (ie., a trial)
We cannot take someones life, liberty, or property [weapons are property] without a trial by a jury capable of deciding whether both the facts and the law apply to the case at hand.
Our RKBA is an inalienable right, a basic part of our Law of the Land.
"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step."
-- Janet Reno
Thanks. Bookmarked.
Maybe she doesn't understand the expression 'cause and effect'.
sue me but i don't think crackhead bob should be able to mosey into earl's guns and pick up a desert eagle on the spot.
i do wish conceal-carry permits were easier to obtain, especially where i live and work.
and just to clarify, when i bought a handgun in virginia years ago when i lived there the "waiting period" was about 10 minutes. they just placed a call. i didn't mean a 5-day waiting period or anything. maybe i should have specified that.
WhooHoo! Wouldn't that be grand.
sue me but i don't think crackhead bob should be able to mosey into earl's guns and pick up a desert eagle on the spot.
If he's on crack, he can't afford a DE. If he has one, he probably stole it. A criminal with a gun-shock!
the "waiting period" was about 10 minutes. they just placed a call. i didn't mean a 5-day waiting period or anything. maybe i should have specified that.
Yes indeed you should have specified that. That changes the whole concept of your waiting period comment. :)
"Waiting periods are only a step.
Registration is only a step."
-- Janet Reno
the factor counters with unwitting 'sarcasm':
ok, so let's just go the route of switzerland and require everyone have a loaded full-auto machine gun in their home.
Gotta love the 'foot in mouth' aspect of that remark. -- We should indeed require every member of our citizen militia to keep a full-auto assault rifle w/ammo, -- at home.
sue me but i don't think crackhead bob should be able to mosey into earl's guns and pick up a desert eagle on the spot.
Sue me, but I think every bob, dick, and harry should be able to mosey into earl's guns and pick up state of the art military shooting hardware on the spot.
Conceal-carry 'permits' are just another example of gov't infringements on our right to carry arms. Only two states now follow the US Constitution on this issue.
Then I look forward to my keyword of “adrenaline cowboys” falling into atrophy.
Bush Promotes New Treaties
Trying to impress his international audience, Bellinger declared that “international law binds us in our domestic system” and that the Bush Administration entered into 429 international agreements and treaties last year alone.
Bellinger bragged that, “…I have a staff of 171 lawyers, who work every day to furnish advice on legal matters, domestic and international, and to promote the development of international law as a fundamental element of our foreign policy.”
According to Bellinger, “…our Constitution does not prescribe isolationism. To the contrary, it promotes our active participation in the development and enforcement of international law.”
This will be news to patriotic Americans.
Even in cases where the administration seems opposed to some new international institution, Bellinger made it clear that the opposition is only half- hearted.
For example, while Bush never sought ratification of the ICC, Bellinger said that “…over the past couple of years we have worked hard to demonstrate that we share the main goals and values of the Court.” He explained, “We did not oppose the Security Council's referral of the Darfur situation to the ICC, and have expressed our willingness to consider assisting the ICC Prosecutor's Darfur work should we receive an appropriate request. We supported the use of ICC facilities for the trial of Charles Taylor, which began this week here in The Hague. These steps reflect our desire to find practical ways to work with ICC supporters to advance our shared goals of promoting international criminal justice…”
Bellinger did not explain what would happen when the ICC decided to lodge charges against U.S. soldiers or officials over “war crimes” in Iraq or elsewhere
Treaties, treaties, treaties. Our country is dying under the weight of treaties.
This is a good start for you .
A person doesn't have to study tyrannical governments much to be unimpressed with your opinion. You don't even have to consider anything outside the twentieth century.
It's a crime to attach a plastic pistol grip to some rifles in Kalifornia. It's a crime in some locales to fail to report theft of a gun.
No, it doesn't, because if the bureaucratic system is dysfunctional, then the legislated solution is to block the sale of weapons.
I haven't heard the outcome, but the Pennsylvania instant check system was going to be "updated" which supposedly required a several day period in which NOBODY could purchase a firearm. Except, I am sure, our masters, the law enforcement community.
Say that again, will you. It so simplifies responding to you.
In fact, why don't you list the things that you believe are not included in the right to self defense.
The quote you site was an added disclaimer after word got out what kennedy had signed: TURN TO PAGE 655. On this page in Volume 9 of the United States Code, read "Policy Formation." The directives there (written in 1963 to pacify objectors) are supposedly to restrain anyone from disarmament, reducing or limiting our armaments, or taking guns away from the people unless it is pursuant to the treaty-making power of the president, or if it is authorized by further legislation by the Congress. (This is title 22, Section 2573.)
AMENDMENTS
1994 - Pub. L. 103-236 amended section generally. Prior to
amendment, section read as follows: ''The Director is authorized
and directed to prepare for the President, the Secretary of State,
and the heads of such other Government agencies, as the President
may determine, recommendations concerning United States arms
control and disarmament policy: Provided, however, That no action
shall be taken under this chapter or any other law that will
obligate the United States to disarm or to reduce or to limit the
Armed Forces or armaments of the United States, except pursuant to
the treaty making power of the President under the Constitution or
unless authorized by further affirmative legislation by the
Congress of the United States. Nothing contained in this chapter
shall be construed to authorize any policy or action by any
Government agency which would interfere with, restrict, or prohibit
the acquisition, possession, or use of firearms by an individual
for the lawful purpose of personal defense, sport, recreation,
education, or training.''
1963 - Pub. L. 88-186 inserted provision precluding construction
of this chapter to authorize the regulation of the possession of
firearms by an individual.
A president at any time can issue an executive order and wipe our guns away. :Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.
Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress. The President's source of authority to issue Executive Orders can be found in the Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution which grants to the President the "executive Power." Section 3 of Article II further directs the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." To implement or execute the laws of the land, Presidents give direction and guidance to Executive Branch agencies and departments, often in the form of Executive Orders.
Assault weapons-clinton. An example.
If I go into Wal Mart and buy a gun I have to wait at the counter until the paperwork is sent through. If I lay my money down on the counter and walk off, I'm going to jail and have probably committed a federal offense.
On the other hand, if I make a private purchase from my next door neighbor, I give him the money he gives me the gun. The government doesn't know I have bought a weapon. No clearing house to go through.
Senator Prescott Bush in '61 helped push through Public Law(PL) 87-297
George H. W. Bush signed PL 101-216 an amendment to PL 87-297.
You have the highest of human trusts committed to your care. Providence has showered on this favored land blessings without number and has chosen you as the guardians of freedom to preserve it for the benefit of the human race.
May He…enable you, with pure hearts and pure hands and sleepless vigilance, to guard and defend to the end of time the great charge he has committed to your keeping.… I thank God that my life has been spent in a land of liberty.”
Andrew Jackson – 7th President of the United States.
Gladly. I'll say it real slow so you can understand it. "Your right to self defense doesn't include ANY gun." And I know you agree!
Does an illegal alien in this country have a right to defend himself against harm? How about an insane person? A foreign tourist? A 4-year-old boy? A prisoner?
With a gun?
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