Posted on 10/03/2007 4:47:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee
CCW is such a compromise proposition, especially here where it's warm most of the time. Situations like this put it into a different perspective.
Better go for multiple rounds of # 4 Buck and distance to make a hit on the critter running AT you. I can tell you the hardest thing to hit is a pup determined to get a bite on it’s target......
Short of the 12 gauge feed the dog your weak arm as ya draw your gun or knife with the other. Empty the mag into the damn thing or keep cutting /stabbing until it is dead....
Anything else is dangerous per my experience with such critters. If the crazy dog is chewing on someone already it is gonna be a bloody mess all round for all involved pretty much. Ya have to wade in to the frey and get a clear cut or shot. That will almost always involve getting bit.......
Pit Bulls are some really strong pups.........I never want to piss one off or invade it’s arena.
This just struck me as a strange thing to say while your mother is being attacked. Why identify the fact that they were full bloodied and the "red nosed" type? Most people would just say pit bulls and not go into details. It's like identifying the gun that someone is shooting you with.
Good catch - clearly the breeding was more important than the behavior.
There have been so many threads on this subject recently and each one contains such opposite opinions. Good dogs, bad owners and every combination. I give up! Would never own one. My neighbor has a one-year old full-blooded blue pit bull. He seems gentle - but I’m sure he’s beginning to sense my growing apprehension...good dog...good neighbor..good bye;)
I read a book some years back where the author raised his family in the Canadian North with about a dozen semi-tame wolves. As long as he maintained “top wolf” status, his wife, as his mate, and their kids, as his cubs, were safe.
But he was challenged every week or two by one of the male wolves, and had to beat the tar out of it with a short club he wore on his belt at all times.
The life sounded a little too exciting to me.
You'd have to know the area. Around here, saying "pit bull" is like saying "dog." I suspect one reason they got so popular is because if you had a dog that wasn't a pit bull, chances were it would get eaten by one eventually.
If you go outside of developments and neighborhoods, the dogs are almost exclusively pit bulls.
I saw a documentary about the domestication of dogs from wolves. The theory had been that this was a gradual process over thousands of years. A Russian experiment in the 50s changed this idea. Massive state fox fur breeding operations wanted to see if they could make the wild caged critters more easily handled. An animal behavior expert checked each fox, cage by cage, selecting the few dozen who reacted to his arm intrusion the least wildly. These tamest (relatively) foxes were bred together and so on. In only 3 or 4 generations, ten or so years, they had chubby little perfectly tame foxes, kind of like Pomeranians.
Now the accepted theory is that wild dogs/wolves could have been tamed very fast by humans.
So I wonder if the reverse is true? In a social calamity or SHTF scenario, when 100s or thousands of dogs are left to their own devices, will the process rapidly work in reverse, from tame to wild? The more tame dogs will die off fast. The hunters, the smart killers, will be the only ones breeding in a year or two.
In a post SHTF or TEOTWAWKI scenario, will mankind have to face packs of killer dogs, perhaps large, wild, man-eating pit bulls?
Anyway, I'm going to include them in my next book.
When I CCW in Clay County, I’m thinking more of dogs than people.
Last night on the Science Channel, I saw a documentary where a film maker followed a pack of hyenas in his jeep, day and night, for like a year. By the end, he was able to sit on the ground with his movie camera, and they would come around and nuzzle him like golden retrievers. Mind you, 4 hyenas will attack and drive off or tree one lioness. Pretty crazy, but the hyenas “accepted” him as a member.
We'll never know.
As soon as the local deer and hog population gives out... ;o)
Maybe we’ll find out some day. Or maybe there is some evidence from wild/feral dog pack behavior.
That is truly bizarre. I’ve seen some of the stuff about hyenas as actually among the top predators, not just scavengers.
I don’t care, they are still about the ugliest and creepiest animals on the planet.
“In a post SHTF or TEOTWAWKI scenario, will mankind have to face packs of killer dogs, perhaps large, wild, man-eating pit bulls?
Anyway, I’m going to include them in my next book.
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Pack dogs are always a wild and vicious bunch. HUmans have that same trait.
Hyenas are extremely bizarre, including female leaders with a pseudo penis that is actually an external birth canal.
Hyena packs will kill isolated lions. They’re tough. About 3 to 1 is a “fair fight.”
Dog packs get crazy right away, but I have to think that a few dog generations of survival of the fittest would turn them back to fully wild, like before humans met them.
That’ll make me vomit, most likely.
Getting some rain up there? Breaking the drought?
Any dog can bite. But why keep any dog that has enough strength in it’s jaws to lock down and not let go? You decrease your chances of surviving. There have been too many similar incidents like this one to justify the excuses I’ve heard why people should be able to have them.
I agree. Too bad that morons still keep them around kids, as in the Amarillo mauling cited above.
For me, I’ll shoot a loose running pitbull on sight if it comes near my property or family.
An armed joovie or a gang, or a bad dog, or two, is a different matter. And here I am with just a revolver in my pocket...
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