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1 posted on 09/29/2007 5:01:59 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition
Leonard Nimoy thought it was hard to capture "lighting from a bottle" twice. But TNG succeeded by being its own show and for the most part it told interesting stories well and introduced Star Trek fans to a new breed of villain: The Borg. It went off the air in 1994 and when I watch it today, the show still seems as compelling as during the seven years of its production. It had successors but no real imitators, I think.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 09/29/2007 5:08:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Daffynition

Counselor Troi !


3 posted on 09/29/2007 5:11:51 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Daffynition
TNG opened up more complex storylines, drama and ensemble acting to go along with the better special effects ...

...none of which could alter the fact that STTNG was incredibly boring, politically naive, and with the exception of the lead had a leaden bunch of actors. It turned the original show--which was nothing but a fun adventure story, with likable characters and colorful adventures--into a dull-looking UN in space. The racism of the original show was still present--all Klingons warlike, all Vulcans logical, etc.--but the underlying message was nauseatingly liberal.

The cheesy effects (nothing ever looked gritty or believable) weren't as fun as the cheesy FX of the original. The music was trite, as opposed to the meaty dramatic scores of the original. It was like watching a lecture in space every week. The few good episodes went back to the values of the original--interesting (as opposed to merely clever and tricky) stories, exciting action, people in peril.

Farscape and even the somewhat overrated Firefly are far superior to TNG, with Firefly being more old-fashioned and having interesting characters, while Farscape was truly out there.

TNG never took chances, the characters were dull (a robot that wants to be human--yeah, ok, ok, we get it, we get it!), and I can't figure out its popularity.

4 posted on 09/29/2007 5:13:25 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist living in Boston)
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Remmber how wooden and lifeless Picard and his crew were when TNG started? It took almost two seasons before they came to life on the screen. I almost couldn’t watch it. If it hadn’t been a continuation of Star Trek the show would probably not have made it. So many millions of fans wanted it to make it becuase of the need for more Star Trek.


5 posted on 09/29/2007 5:15:03 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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9 posted on 09/29/2007 5:45:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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14 posted on 09/29/2007 8:51:21 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Daffynition
But if you put it side by side with the Original Series, it's a huge creative leap.

Total baloney

To the Hollywood lefties of the 1980's, Kirk = Reagan and Picard = Dukakis/Mondale.
Although the original show was low budget and at times hokie, they at times used scripts from actual published science fiction writers. What the TNG hacks never understood was that conflict is the essence of drama. They had way too many characters that weren't half as entertaining as Kirk_Spock_McCoy. Compare:

Original Star Trek...
Spock: "Unidentified object approaching at warp 12, Captain"
Uhuru:"Not responding to any frequencies Captain."
Kirk:"Shields up, lock on photon torpedos Mr. Sulu"
Sulu:"Aye Sir"
Crash! Space weapon hits Enterprise.
McCoy:"What are you doing to my sick bay!"
Kirk:"Fire photon torpedos Mr.Sulu!"
bweebweebweebwee
Sulu:"A direct hit Sir!"

Star Trek TNG
Warf: "Unidentified object approaching at warp 12, Captain"
Data:"Not responding to any frequencies Captain."
Picard:"What do you make of this number one?"
Number One:"Hard to say. I advise caution"
Picard:"Counselor Troi?"
Counselor Troi:"I...I...Don't know...I'm picking up...conflict....great pain...confusion...I think we should wait before doing anything rash."
Crash! Space weapon hits Enterprise
Warf:"This entity may be hostile. I recomend we raise the sheilds"
Picard:"Make it so, number one. Place the order to raise the aft shields. I'll be in the holodeck if anyone needs me."
Etc, etc.

17 posted on 09/29/2007 9:14:02 AM PDT by Thudd (Mixing matter with anti-matter since 1967)
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I didn't get into the TNG until the 3rd or 4th season.. It was the Borg episode.. The last season was total crap except the series final...

The trek shows I like are TOS, TNG, DS9 and ST:ENT. The trek show I hate is Voyager...


19 posted on 09/29/2007 1:53:36 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: Daffynition

IMHO, the show took a hit when Denise Crosby’s character was bumped off, particularly how it was done so cavalierly (particularly in light of the fact that three cryo-frozen dead people from the 21st century were brought back to life in “The Neutral Zone”); another hit when Diana Muldaur was brought in during season two; but then Gates was brought back and Muldaur dumped for seasons three through seven (plus the movies), and when the Wesley Crusher character was dumped at last, I cheered. BTW, I’ve got the entire series on Columbia House videos (VHS), if anyone is interested... ;’)


37 posted on 10/01/2007 10:36:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Engage.


41 posted on 10/08/2007 8:46:02 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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