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To: b_sharp; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; .30Carbine; From many - one.; xzins; metmom; MHGinTN
Question: By that logic, shouldn't an ovum and a sperm be considered human life?

Answer: NO. Life comes from their synergistic combination, not from either one or the other standing alone. They call this process: fertilization, or conception. Not till fertilization does life exist. But once it occurs, it irrevocably specifies the "blueprint" of a living individual human being, from that inception (fertilization, conception) till natural death.

And not coincidentally, that is the very thing the United States Constitution undertakes to protect, preserve, and defend.

Or do you see this issue differently?

8 posted on 09/06/2007 9:32:18 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: betty boop
The poster is either confused or playing the fool regarding the difference between an organ and an organism. Sperm and ova are sub-units of organs within an organism. A zygote is an organism, as is the 'thing' through every phase of the organismal existence begun at conception (the union of sperm and ovum when it results in a zygote).
9 posted on 09/06/2007 9:51:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: b_sharp; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; From many - one.; xzins; metmom; MHGinTN
[.. Question: Shouldn't an ovum and a sperm be considered human life? ..]

You can haveing living DNA and dead DNA.. On dead DNA whats missing?..
Is DNA machinery? or more than that?..

10 posted on 09/06/2007 11:52:04 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Sopater
"Answer: NO. Life comes from their synergistic combination, not from either one or the other standing alone. They call this process: fertilization, or conception.

Really? I would never have known.

"Not till fertilization does life exist. But once it occurs, it irrevocably specifies the "blueprint" of a living individual human being, from that inception (fertilization, conception) till natural death.

You missed my point. I was talking about the idea that it is impossible, because science has not defined when life starts, to make a decision on when life starts. AG was very clear in our discussion of what defines life that the continuum fallacy does not exist and had been debunked right here on FR. She in fact claimed that a pro-evo poster here invented that fallacy.

I find it very interesting that Sopater is using logic that was debunked by AG and others.

"And not coincidentally, that is the very thing the United States Constitution undertakes to protect, preserve, and defend.

The constitution protects the rights of a sperm and an ovum in their holy union? I never knew that.

The constitution undertakes to protect, preserve and defend life, but was the definition of life when the constitution was written the same as yours?

22 posted on 09/07/2007 10:30:15 AM PDT by b_sharp ("Science without intelligence is lame, religion without personal integrity is reprehensible"-Sealion)
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