The notion that we can simply "cut a deal" with the despots in Beijing...is as lame and inept in reasoning as Xlinton and W's misconception of reality.
Posted on 08/29/2007 5:09:04 PM PDT by Sun
“You still didn’t define ‘partnership.’”
I didn’t define partnership, because Romney didn’t. I couldn’t figure out what he means. We already have an approximately $275 BILLION EACH YEAR trade imbalance with Red China. What more does Romney want?
China doesn’t need capitalism - they need democracy. China isn’t getting any closer to democracy with capitalism. The people of Red China don’t have freedom.
Free trade for free countries!
“Still updating...should have a more added by the weekend!”
It must keep you out of mischief. :)
Democracy a distant goal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022700502.html
Great article. I took the liberty of copying a couple of paragraphs:
“China’s Premier Calls Democracy A Distant Goal
Remarks an Answer to Reform Debate
By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, February 28, 2007; Page A13
BEIJING, Feb. 27 — The Communist Party cautioned China’s increasingly impatient reformers and intellectuals Tuesday that political liberalization and democracy are still a long way off despite the rapid pace of economic change over the past two decades.
The warning, in an article attributed to Premier Wen Jiabao in the official People’s Daily newspaper, constituted the party’s first known response to a bubbling up of political debate as China prepares for an annual session of its legislature and an important Communist Party congress that is scheduled for this fall.”
Hope y’all will read the rest at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...022700502.html
If anyone thinks that capitalism will lead to Democracy in China, they better think again.
Sun, this means in all likelihood Mitt is going to choose another Rockefeller Republican type for VP assuming he’s nominated. I had always thought Mitt would choose Hunter because he needs the military & social conservative support Hunter brings, but Hunter is too principled to make a deal with Romney now, especially over China since Hunter is the only candidate talking honestly about it.
Hopefull Rudy McRomney won’t be the candidates. It’s still early, and political analysts say people aren’t paying attention yet. But once they do start paying attention, it’ll go by fast.
I get so upset that the majority of our politicians voted for a Most Favored Status with Communist China, and got us into this mess in the first place.
So where do the Republican presidential contenders stand on trade?
John McCain has the longest track record. His pro-free-trade record dates all the way back to 1993, when he supported NAFTA. McCain also supported Trade Promotion Authority in 1997 and 2002, during both the Clinton and Bush administrations. During his time in the Senate, the Arizona Republican has supported every major piece of trade legislation, including controversial measures like CAFTA and Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China.
Douglas Holtz-Eakin, the McCain campaign’s director of economic policy, says that not only does McCain support the reauthorization of TPA, but he would also aggressively use it as president to negotiate bilateral and multilateral agreements. “Every time a country has succumbed to the siren song of isolationism, it has come back to hurt that nation,” he says. “Senator McCain doesn’t want to see this nation hurt.”
Rudolph Giuliani has a more checkered record on trade. While he supports the renewal of TPA, other aspects of the former mayor’s record may give free traders pause. In 1993, he said he was skeptical of the NAFTA agreement opening markets between the U.S., Mexico, and Canada. Boskin says this should not overshadow a general commitment to global engagement, including trade. “He was mayor of New York in 1993, and was looking out for the people of New York,” says Michael Boskin, a Hoover Institution fellow and economic adviser to the Giuliani campaign. “I think he thought there were some aspects of NAFTA that would give one a reason for pause. As president, the mayor would look out for the interests of all Americans.”
Of Giuliani, Pat Toomey of the Club for Growth is tentative. “We acknowledge that he was on the wrong side of NAFTA,” he says. “I would look forward to hearing him make more specific, concrete statements in favor of trade.”
While Fred Thompson does not have as long as a record of votes on trade as some of his competitors, his votes do indicate strong support for free trade and Trade Promotion Authority. Thompson voted for TPA in 1997 and 2002, and for Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China in 2000.
Former congressman David McIntosh, an economic adviser to the nascent Thompson campaign, tells National Review Online that Thompson would “push strongly” for TPA as a component of his foreign policy. “If we extend a free trade opportunity to some countries, they may align themselves with us on other strategic and geopolitical interests,” says McIntosh. “Senator Thompson views free trade as a key part of a free market economy and of wealth creation for the United States.”
Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, the co-founder of private-equity investment giant Bain Capital, has been one of the most consistent supporters of free trade, making it a key element of his economic platform. “He believes that the American business and American worker can compete with anyone in the world,” according to James Bognet, a deputy policy director for the Romney campaign. Romney particularly supports engaging China in trade, his website calling the Asian market an “opportunity.”
The Romney campaign outwardly expresses worry about the Democrats. “All three major Democratic candidates have shown is that they’ve all opposed extending Trade Promotion Authority,” says Bognet. “That shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the tools a president needs to grow the economy.” Clinton and Edwards voted against TPA in 2002. Obama was not in the Senate for that vote, but has voted against major pieces of trade legislation, like CAFTA. The Obama campaign did not return calls asking for comment on the Senator’s position on TPA.
Several minor GOP candidates are openly skeptical of free trade.
The free-trade Club for Growth is happy with the major candidates. Toomey, the group’s president, says, “I think we’re going to be satisfied with where all the leading candidates are.”
Mitt needs a couple of more wives to keep him from stupid ideas like this.
Compare China today with China of 30 years ago. The difference is truly amazing. I know many around here don’t believe it, but I absolutely agree with Tony Snow on this.
Romney: I believe in building bridges not walls. We specifically addressed the detention of a Massachusetts citizen, Yang Jianli, with Chinese officials and we asked for special attention and consideration for his early release. Working with China on our own security interests — including the isolation of North Korea — must not be at the expense of our commitment to freedom and basic human rights.
Romney: I traveled to Japan, China, and South Korea. Two things from my China trip stand out. First, they will be a more powerful economic competitor than we in America recognize. They are hard working, market oriented, and smart. They even have some lower taxes in some areas than we do. Bottom line: They are competing to win. Second, it is important for us as a nation to reach out to China and to chart out a course that is consistent with a free economy and a free society. This goal must be consistent with our own principles.
http://www.freerepublic.com/~unmarkedpackage/#china
Duncan Hunter definitely helps himself by rightfully attacking China on its unfair trade advantages. In fact, Hunter is saying the right things on all of the issues, but Hunter is still not making any progress among the majority of Republican voters. Too much attention is still being placed upon the “Kennedy wing of the Republican Party” by the MSM!
"I'm not happy exporting jobs but we must move ahead in technology and patents. I don't like losing any jobs but we'll see new opportunities created selling products there. We'll have a net net increase in economic activity, just as we did with free trade," Romney said. "It's tempting to want to protect our markets and stay closed. But at some point it all comes crashing down and you're hopelessly left behind. Then you are Russia."
According to Forrester Research, only two percent of U.S. IT jobs moved offshore by 2004 and that number will increase to less than 10 percent by 2015.
The notion that we can simply "cut a deal" with the despots in Beijing...is as lame and inept in reasoning as Xlinton and W's misconception of reality.
Check out post #23, provided by cripplecreek, and if you don’t want to click the link, post #24.
Red China is no where near democracy, and that’s a fact.
“Too much attention is still being placed upon the “Kennedy wing of the Republican Party” by the MSM!”
Grassroots folks can counter that by calling a talk show, writing editors’ letters, and contributing to Hunter’s campaign.
But it will take a lot of us, just as it took a lot of us to stop the amnesty bill.
Please check out post #23.
Here are Mitt Romney’s views, which I feel are terribly naive, but I know some of you will agree with Romney, and some of you won’t.
“Romney wants competition, partnership with China
By Jason Cato
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Saturday, April 28, 2007
China, neither friend nor foe, will be a priority if former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is elected to the White House, the Republican candidate said Friday during a visit to Pittsburgh.
“They’re a competitor economically, and more power to them,” Romney said after a campaign meeting at the Duquesne Club, Downtown. “We know how to compete. We want to make sure the competition is fair and legal.”
Part of that challenge is to protect U.S. intellectual property rights in a country rife with counterfeiters and to persuade the Chinese government to implement a fair monetary policy.
Romney, 60, said he recently visited China and met with leaders there. Unlike the former Soviet Union, which he said wanted to destroy the United States, Romney believes China has a vested interest in a strong U.S. economy.
“China doesn’t want to bury us. They want to see us succeed and thrive so we can buy more Chinese products,” he said.
In addition, a healthy relationship with China would be critical to ensure one of Romney’s other top priorities: keeping nuclear weapons away from North Korea, Iran or terrorists.
“Making China a partner for stability in the world will be one of my highest priorities,” Romney said.”
excerpt http://pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/rss/s_505068.html
Thursday (8/30/07) on Laura Ingraham’s show, she interviewed Dr. Jerome Corsi who wrote a book called: “The Late Great USA.”
He said we have slave labor in China to produce products. Clinton and Bush took out antislave provisions, he said. We need fair trade, not “free” trade, and we will lose 40 million more jobs by going to other countries. Chrysler is already doing, or soon will, do some auto building in China w/a company called Chery?
If the way Red China treats it’s own people is any indication of how they would treat us, if they become the Superpower (from American dollars), it’s just plain naive to trust them.
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