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To: RushCrush

“Bad pit bulls are created by bad owners. /dons flame suit”

You’re right, however after generations of creation of this breed, it no longer belongs in a civil society. It is a working breed that cannot be trusted with children.

Maybe, someday again but the breed must change.

Dob’s BTW are in the same category - they are working guard dogs and cannot be around children.

/now, I’ll don the flame suit, thanks for testing it.


17 posted on 08/25/2007 10:06:55 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
Dob’s BTW are in the same category - they are working guard dogs and cannot be around children.

No flames, Ed. Please me something that backs that statement up because everything I've read about the Doberman points to the opposite.

26 posted on 08/25/2007 10:26:51 PM PDT by SIDENET (More fun than a beer left in the freezer.)
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To: edcoil; OSHA; SIDENET; dixiechick2000
what sort of dogs do you have around your kids EC?

I had very good luck with my Dobie (RIP) and love Pits....though I rarely leave any baby or toddler unsuperives with any dog larger than Taco Bell.

Our Dobie (2002)

47 posted on 08/26/2007 1:28:25 AM PDT by wardaddy (if we let them stay, it will destroy our culture as we know it.....it's Camp of the Saints time)
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To: edcoil; OSHA

I couldn’t disagree more; Dobermans are just about the smartest breed, ever. Our newest Dobe came from a breeder who home-raised them around her children, and children of all ages can come right up to her and pet her, play with her ears, etc. All our Dobermans have been spectacularly well-behaved around children and earned good canine citizen rating to visit hospitals and nursing homes. I have no reason to believe our current puppy will not do the same when she comes of age.

OSHA, about the whining and crying: you have to realize that Dobes only want to be with you. Make a tape (video or audio) of yourself where you keep talking, and play it while you’re gone. That will calm the puppy down a LOT. It is also important to have proper socialization with a lot of different people talking to the dog, so that you can play the TV or radio while you’re gone. Draw your drapes so they can’t be overstimulated by something outside, and gradually work them into being left alone for longer periods of time.

Good luck; these are wonderful, wonderful family pets.


48 posted on 08/26/2007 5:04:53 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Yes, we have climate change: it's called WEATHER!)
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To: edcoil

I can attest to that being categorically untrue. My grandfather trained dogs for both the military and the police force. He trained all breeds, but preferred Dobies. I was raised by my grandparents, we had three Doberman Pinschers and all three were phenomenal dogs. I was in that house from age 7 up, and never, EVER had a problem with any of them. And as a child, I was probably the biggest PIA to them. They were completely gentle around me.


52 posted on 08/26/2007 9:03:25 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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