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Second-rate Vista has Windows fans looking to Linux
Desktop Linux ^ | August 20th | Steven J Vaughn-Nichols

Posted on 08/24/2007 3:59:39 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

The year is 1993, and I'm at the Spencer Katt party at Fall Comdex, back when Comdex was "the" technology show of technology shows. There, I, a freelance technology journalist, meet Jim Louderback, then the director of PC Weeks Labs. We end up talking about operating systems. He rather liked Windows for Workgroups for the desktop; I sang the praises of SCO Open Desktop 2.0. It was the beginning of a beautiful friendship, even though we completely disagree about operating systems.

Now, almost 15 years later, Jim and I are still friends. I'm now editor at large for Ziff Davis Enterprise, which means I get to stick my nose into just about any technology that interests me, and Jim's just left being the editor in chief of PC Magazine to take over Revision3, an Internet television network focused on developing programming for the on-demand generation. When it comes to operating systems these days, I'm now using SLED (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) 10 SP 1 and MEPIS 6.5 on my work desktops and Jim's switching back from Vista to XP on his workday machines.

Yes, that's right. A loyal Windows user of more than 15-years is throwing in the towel on Vista. You can read his story for why he finds Vista so annoying, but I'll sum it up for you: Vista sucks.

(Excerpt) Read more at desktoplinux.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: linux; vista; vistafailure; windows; windowsmillennium; windowsvista
Vista is one of the best things to happen to linux in a while.
1 posted on 08/24/2007 3:59:42 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

2 posted on 08/24/2007 4:03:33 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008 -- talk about it >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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Heh, you got that right. Dell’s expanded their linux line at least once, and there are rumors that more OEMs are going to be picking up linux as well.


3 posted on 08/24/2007 4:16:23 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Wow for a minute I thought this was actually from a real news source.

Thank God for the unbiased reporting from desktoplinux.com!

As a person that uses both Vista and Ubuntu, I can say truthfully that only a fool would dump Windows, with it’s minor annoyances, for all the headaches, long hours on help forums, unusable hardware, sub par apps, wonky issues, and 1990s terminal style computing, that is par for the course with Linux.

Fortunately my Linux machines are used for EXTREMELY simple tasks, so that high tech stuff like looking at web pages are well within it’s reach. Otherwise you should never touch it unless you have time to spare or waste.


4 posted on 08/24/2007 4:18:04 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“Vista is one of the best things to happen to linux in a while.”

I have supported Microsoft products professionally since ‘99 and used them since ‘90. I whole-heartedly agree with that statement.


5 posted on 08/24/2007 4:34:56 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: VanDeKoik

I’m running a dual boot of Ubuntu Feisty Fawn (stable version) and Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (beta version). I’m not exactly running a powerhouse (3GHz P4, 1 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200, 80GB HD, Ethernet wired Net connection) and it runs just fine. Both versions of Ubuntu detected my hardware with no problems, including my HP all in one printer. I surf the net, do my email, and run my business (I am an Independent Sales Representative for AVON, legalspeak for AVON lady!). Is Linux for everyone? No. My husband is a gamer so he runs WinXP. For some, Macs work for them. I like Linux. It works for me. What is important is that you go with what fits your needs.


6 posted on 08/24/2007 5:57:53 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: VanDeKoik

^^^^^^^^^Thank God for the unbiased reporting from desktoplinux.com!^^^^^^^^^^^

What did you expect, al reuters? ny slimes?

^^^^^^^^^^1990s terminal style computing^^^^^^^^^^

All you’ve shown us all is that you haven’t used linux since the 1990’s.

That complaint went out with caldera. You’ve updated your knowledge to know the name ‘ubuntu’, now it’s time you updated your knowledge by downloading an actual disk and using it.

No terminal is required in linux any more than it is in windows or a mac. But all three of these allow access to it.


7 posted on 08/24/2007 6:29:23 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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To: Severa

The key to the post you replied to is the comment about 1990’s terminal computing.

As a fellow linux user you know just as well as I do that it’s not required.

I can see facts omission all day by just reading liberal media releases, I don’t really need to see that here on FR as well.


8 posted on 08/24/2007 6:32:11 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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You’re right, terminal computing isn’t required. I see a lot of people on the Ubuntu forums that use Automatix2 to install their programs. It works for them. Me, I’m a freak that actually doesn’t mind working on the command line. *s*


9 posted on 08/24/2007 7:15:12 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: VanDeKoik

I have been running Vista on a laptop for several months. It took awhile to get used to the new GUI but I like it now. It has also been stable. All my XP compatible peripherals worked. All my old software worked except one freeware program. I even have a Win 3.1 program running without a hitch. I’m sure there are some hardware and software compatibility problems, security problems and other things that don’t work but what doesn’t...


10 posted on 08/25/2007 4:44:55 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Not surprising. Windows gets it sort of right on every other version of Windows (3.1-pretty good, 95-buggy, 98-getting there, ME-POS, XP-Nice, Vista-train wreck), but I've been impressed with every Linux distro I ever tried.

I've been a Mac convert for over a year now and can't imagine ever going back to Windows. When I have to get on the PC the kids use I just cringe at all the crap (anti-virus, anti-spyware) that has to load and becomes outdated in less than a week.

11 posted on 08/25/2007 5:12:46 AM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Fishin' for a good time starts with throwin' in your line.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Right.

And all those help forums where Im shown how to do X by “opening up you terminal and....” are just all figments of my imagination?

And spare me “You really don’t use Linux” bull. That’s one of the thing I really hate about it are the arrogant BS artist that are in it’s ranks.


12 posted on 08/25/2007 5:33:09 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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^^^^^^^^^^And all those help forums where Im shown how to do X by “opening up you terminal and....” are just all figments of my imagination?^^^^^^^^^^^

No, they’re not. But that doesn’t necessarily mean a whole lot.

Take for example file permissions. Go ahead and find the instructions on google. They’re all ‘open the terminal and blah blah’ instructions.

It’s as simple as right clicking on the file and choosing ‘properties’. Then look for the ‘permissions’ tab. That’s how it’s done in KDE.

They give terminal instructions because of the different desktop environments, not because it’s necessarily required.(and there are still some who only use the terminal)

But if you had more experience with linux, this thought should’ve occured with you.

^^^^^^^^^^^^And spare me “You really don’t use Linux” bull^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey, I’m not the one who forced you to use an old argument, you did that one on your own.

^^^^^^^^^^^That’s one of the thing I really hate about it are the arrogant BS artist that are in it’s ranks.^^^^^^^^

Alright then. This should be very simple. Don’t use old and irrelevant complaints, and you won’t have to face this accusation.

You complaining about the requirement of the terminal is like me complaining about how windows is unstable because it’s DOS based.

They’re both old and irrelevant complaints. Windows hasn’t been DOS based since 98/ME days.


13 posted on 08/25/2007 8:50:24 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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Suse is great... The only problem is one has to manually restart the network service to get online. But its a minor hiccup. With Linuxant, uploading Windows wireless card drivers is a snap.

14 posted on 08/27/2007 10:54:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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