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Eclipse Concept Jet, 4 seater!
EAA, Aero-News.net, Eclipse Aviation ^ | 7/23/2007 | Eclipse Aviation

Posted on 07/23/2007 10:29:25 AM PDT by taildragger

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21 posted on 07/23/2007 11:09:43 AM PDT by taildragger
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22 posted on 07/23/2007 11:10:43 AM PDT by taildragger
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Bttt


23 posted on 07/23/2007 11:30:27 AM PDT by taildragger
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To: randomhero97; Yo-Yo; ccmay
I would hate to have an engine failure on a single engine aircraft.

Nawww...GlobalFlyer went around the world non-stop - on a single turbo-fan jet engine!

The biggest risk for a jet (any jet) is FOD (Foreign Object Damage), birds, runway debris, etc. But that's pretty rare.

I'm personally more adverse to the 'V'-tail configuration. Beechcraft V-tailed Bonanzas were plagued with an unsettling 'wiggle' and went to a conventional tail (vertical stabilizer and horizontal tailplane) for current models.

An old Indian chief who looked at a Beecraft noted "Ugh, arrow need 3 feathers to fly straight!"

Interesting design, anyway...

24 posted on 07/23/2007 11:39:24 AM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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AF crew chief for 7 years and I know all about FOD, FOD walks, FOD prevention, blah, blah.


25 posted on 07/23/2007 12:13:26 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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...I know all about FOD...

If I use an acronym I'll define it for the readership not 'in the business'; no slight intended...

26 posted on 07/23/2007 12:17:38 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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None taken. Totally understand with the acronyms. Are you in the aircraft maintenance industry?


27 posted on 07/23/2007 12:22:16 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: ccmay

Which is the company that makes parachutes for airplanes. Can one be rigged to this plane?


28 posted on 07/23/2007 12:49:45 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: randomhero97
Are you in the aircraft maintenance industry?

No, just contribute to it - SEL private pilot. Push around an old Cessna and a Diamond DA-20 :)

29 posted on 07/23/2007 12:58:17 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: Yo-Yo; taildragger; Aeronaut; Paleo Conservative
There are two ping lists. Address a ping reply to Aeronaut or to Paleo Conservative.

Phantomworker has a copy of my ping list too.

30 posted on 07/23/2007 1:10:18 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Cirrus Design of Duluth, MN is one of them.


31 posted on 07/23/2007 1:21:40 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck
GCR,

Is that your Luscombe Sedan in the background on your page?

On the Bonanza's V-Tail, wasn't that more structural issues that gave it the wiggles?

Leeon Davis claimed his all flying tails Tailed Davis homebuilt didn't share the Bonanza's wiggles. Ditto that Monnett and his Waiex.

I would imagine FOD may be less of an issue with this new Eclipse Bird, the Inlet seems to be in a bit of a protected zone, even from the mains.

32 posted on 07/23/2007 3:02:24 PM PDT by taildragger
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Is that your Luscombe Sedan in the background on your page?

Good eye....and a beauty! Pic was taken at the 2005 Reno Air Races.

Regarding the Bonanza, and Leeon Davis's designs not withstanding, that aircrafts' problems were probably more structural than aerodynamic, though FAA studies were inconclusive; the 'V' configuration might have induced flutter that caused structural failure.

It still killed a higher number of people than other aircraft at that time. I have, btw, seen a V-tail Bonanzas with a 'skeg' appendage added, but no chance to talk with the owner regarding that modification.

I'm certain the Cirrus engineers researched all issues before choosing that configuration, and certification will wring it out to failure points.

Still, I have to believe that the old Indian knew something... :)

33 posted on 07/23/2007 4:12:59 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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