Posted on 07/04/2007 10:25:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker
By the way, I did see from the manual that you can erase all your data on the phone, if you need to send it in for repair or whateveer. I guess that’s for people who don’t want their data floating out there for someone else (in repair) to pick up and use in some way... good idea...
“However, some of these things I would like to know, too —”
Glad to be of service ...
You seem upset that I bring these up - I don’t know about you, but I hate finding problems down that road that I could have prepared for.
“By the way, I did see from the manual that you can erase all your data on the phone,”
Sure, a complete restore will do that - but having an image to restore from with all the extra widgets, data and whatnot you’ve collected would make the annoyance of having to ship your unit into for something as simple as a battery change a little more bearable.
If you want to store several videos and your music library on your iPhone, 8 Gig is pretty small. If this thing is going to replace the iPod, your phone, and your Laptop, it is gonna need more than 8 Gig.
Yeah, but if you follow the iPhone hack, it effectively disables the "phone" part of the iPhone - which is pretty idiotic. What's the point of having a convergent device (cell phone, laptop, ipod), if, I'm going to have to carry around a cell phone to by-pass AT&T?
You seem upset that I bring these up - I dont know about you, but I hate finding problems down that road that I could have prepared for.
I would say, "stating the obvious" is more apt... LOL. It seems you've made a career out of the negative spin rather than preparing for buying the iPhone...
There hasn't been a product ever made in the world that has not had something wrong or needed repair or couldn't have been improved upon. Apple is the same, even though they make the best of products for the consumer. Therefore, even with the best, there is always going to be room for improvement. If this wasn't so, even with Apple producing the best of products, you wouldn't see them getting even better all the time. They would have nothing left to do, if it were all perfect.
But, in your case, I doubt you have a single current Apple product, and instead, simply sling negative spin, instead of putting in suggestions to Apple for improving a product (they do listen to consumers for improvements, and have a webpage for inputting it). So, while I do have an Apple Macintosh desktop, laptop, iPod, and iPhone (along with various Apple accessories and other things), I doubt you have a single one.
So, it seems to be a bit disingenuous to say that you're concerned about problems that you could have prepeared for down the road.... To do that, you have to have Apple products in your possession.... LOL..
Regards,
Star Traveler
P.S. -- Maybe you're waiting until the year 2525 (remember the song...?) so that Apple will have perfected everything and they can do no better and they quit business because it's all perfect now... LOL
P.P.S. -- And by the way, I do have the iPhone and it's the best thing out there for the kind of product that it is. And I know there is room for Apple to do even better with it, so I'm expecting another year or two to bring out even more improvements and an even better iPhone than what I have right now. But, that's not stopping me from getting the best that we have at this moment. I'll get the better one a year or two down the road, too. :-) [and this one will probably be a "hand-me-down" to someone else in the family, like many other Apple products I've had before..., another great tradition in the Apple family of products...]
Sure, a complete restore will do that - but having an image to restore from with all the extra widgets, data and whatnot youve collected would make the annoyance of having to ship your unit into for something as simple as a battery change a little more bearable.
Well, between having a disk image versus having the ability to re-sync your data may not be that significant to the user of the iPhone. It would appear that re-syncing after getting the iPhone back again should be what is needed to get going again, where the user was before the unit was shipped off.
But, mind you, we're talking about something that no one even knows will be any kind of problem at all -- in terms of the battery. In fact, my usage of the iPhone so far shows it to be quite long-lived in terms of its usage, before running down. And I don't know how long it will be before it has to be replaced, either. So a lot of this is simply unknown and we're talking about "what ifs" here.
Even so, I've mentioned that it appears that there might be a few pieces of data on the iPhone which are not part of the syncing process. I have yet to reallly find out for sure, but it appears that way to me. I could be wrong, though. And since this is simply a software type of action, even if I were right (about certain information not syncing), that's something which could be changed overnight by Apple if it were needed. I'm not sure if this is something that was perceived as really needed, though. If consumers thought it was (like in syncing "Notes") then I'm sure Apple would include it.
But, what you would have "collected" in terms of data, would be resident in the present syncing process and would not be lost, from my understanding of what is going on. But, as in all things "computer" -- there are details still to understand. And I'm still working on understanding all the "workings" of the iPhone.
However, in the meantime, it still seems to be the excellent product that all the reviews say it is, even while we're all figuring out all the details of its operation. And we'll also see those details of its operation changing in the coming weeks and months, because Apple will do upgrades as time goes along. So, even these present details will change. That's one of the nice things about this iPhone, is that since it's operation is almost entirely software, it can be upgraded and changed without any hardware changes and without any need of bringing the phone in to a repair center to do work on it. "Buttons" can be changed or added or removed, or entire "operations" revised to different ways of working, without anyone ever coming in to an Apple store. It can be done right on the AT&T network without anything needed to be done by the consumer.
Regards,
Star Traveler
If you want to store several videos and your music library on your iPhone, 8 Gig is pretty small. If this thing is going to replace the iPod, your phone, and your Laptop, it is gonna need more than 8 Gig.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that this was designed to be a replacement for the iPod, and MacBook -- along with having a phone. That's not what I've heard. And, I don't perceive it that way for my usage. It's supplementary.
I still have my laptop and that gets carried around with me in the car to places that I go. I have it in my backpack, so it's ready to go anytime I want. I always have the backpack with me. My 5th generation iPod is with me at all times, too. I have a Canon digital camera with me at all times, too.
I should point out that my 5th generation iPod had a hard drive for that large storage space that it has. And the iPhone has flash memory for its 8 Gigabytes of storage. I doubt the iPhone is going to ever get a hard drive in it. It wouldn't be as rugged if it had a hard drive. I saw a PC World "rugged test" where they put the iPhone through all sorts of real-life scenarios of dropping it, banging it, scratching it and seeing if it still worked. It held up fine being tough and rugged throughout all they did.
So, this is a very utilitarian device, being a phone primarily, with the supplementary addition of these other components that make life a lot easier and simpler for many things you want to do. It's not going to replace the MacBook or the iPod and was never intended to do that. For what it is, right now, the 8 Gigs is just fine.
Regards,
Star Traveler
P.S. -- Some people cannot even envision or even imagine in their wildest dreams what they would use 8 Gigs for (even on their computers at home ... LOL). Even if I can imagine it, it doesn't mean everyone else has the same "imagination" or requirements. For all "geeks" whatever number of "Gigs" is never enough...
Right after the 4th of July (for the next day, Thursday) the entire country was out of stock, except for exactly two stores. Now, for Friday (the next day), it looks like a little over half the stores in the country were restocked and are selling again.
It would appear that the demand is really big and is still going strong.
You’re not going to get an iPhone with a hard drive in it, like you have with the iPod. So, don’t hold your breath.
But, even so, as soon as flash memory gets larger and as soon as prices are reasonable for those greatly expanded memory capacities for that flash memory, then you’ll see those amounts of storage included in the iPhone.
But..., if you wait even longer, the “next generation” will be even better. Heck, if you wait long enough, we’ll just bury you with the best model in your casket... LOL...
The “next generation” is always going to be better. If you always waited for the “better” you would never get the product... :-)
Yawn...
Iain M. Banks and a dozen other sci-fi writers have had portable computers/terminals/data devices in their stories for decades. This isn't "innovation". This is finally catching up with the human ability to dream.
Wake me up when this thing is direct neural feed...
I’ve noticed the same thing. Unfortunately California sells out almost entirely. I’d love to know what their sales figures are.
Ummmm..., you know there is a difference between science fiction — and — the real life we live? LOL...
Apple sells products to people who live in the “real world” — notwithstanding all the science fiction stories you can read and view on TV or in the movies... :-)
You mean like pocket computers, space stations, lasers, and cures for cancer?
Actually I mean the difference between things sitting in people’s heads — versus — the products that a company makes and people buy.
Or, we could say, the difference between getting paid for writing stories, — versus — the items that people buy and use everyday....
You mean like compact recording media, the Internet, and climate control in our homes?
This is finally catching up with the human ability to dream.
Wake me up when this thing is direct neural feed...
And so, yes, we'll wake you up when that direct neural feed is operational (in about 50 years or more). In the meantime, there will be those who make money writing science fiction stories -- and then -- those who make money through companies developing products that people buy and use today.
No need for you to wake up yet...
Regards,
Star Traveler
Again, you are making light of sci-fi writers predicting major advancements. This says more about your lack of vision than it does the writers market viability.
Nasa demonstrates faster than light flight...
Dead Corpse says:
“Yawn.... wake me up when they have instant interstellar teleportation...
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