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The Sopranos final episode - Did anyone understand that ending?(Vanity)

Posted on 06/10/2007 7:08:12 PM PDT by RDTF

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To: JEC
It’s like riding a windsurfer or a Harley. If you need an explanation, you will never understand.

Amen. It communicated the essence and feeling of life & family within the mafia "family"... always waiting for the next shoe to drop.

Sorry to others if you don't agree but, David Chase blew me away with his ending.

161 posted on 06/11/2007 11:42:17 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: alarm rider
I found the A.J. “join the Army” deal strange.

Too bad that didn't happen. Would make a great spin-off movie "Private Soprano".Just combined the screenplays of Private Benjamin and Stripes.

"Hey turn those lights back off! It's F*** 5:00am!

162 posted on 06/11/2007 11:49:36 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Williams

My barber told me the same thing several weeks ago about the gun play at Holsten’s so go to the bank on it.


163 posted on 06/11/2007 12:10:07 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: RDTF

Simple. The whole planet suddenly burst into flames from Global Warming and everyone instantly died. Prepare to send your money to Congress to prevent that from happening!


164 posted on 06/11/2007 12:13:53 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: REDWOOD99

I thought the whole season was a loser. They had run out of ideas. The whole AJ was nothing-din’t kill himself -didn’t join army-lots of buildup for nothing on that one. Seems these series go so long they just run out of fizzle. I thought this was it is left open for movie. I just was unimpressed with whole season. The whole Jr. thing was a big nothing too. Lots of time spent on him at first in the home what with his nasty Asian side kick to they pretty much quit talking about him til the end. What was the whole Meadow parking thing? Lots of time for nothing.


165 posted on 06/11/2007 12:19:55 PM PDT by LYSandra
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To: REDWOOD99

I thought the whole season was a loser. They had run out of ideas. The whole AJ was nothing-din’t kill himself -didn’t join army-lots of buildup for nothing on that one. Seems these series go so long they just run out of fizzle. I thought this was it is left open for movie. I just was unimpressed with whole season. The whole Jr. thing was a big nothing too. Lots of time spent on him at first in the home what with his nasty Asian side kick to they pretty much quit talking about him til the end. What was the whole Meadow parking thing? Lots of time for nothing.


166 posted on 06/11/2007 12:20:21 PM PDT by LYSandra
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To: ozzymandus

Ha! That’s what I was thinking too!!!! I know some libs who always claim they ONLY watch PBS but when you talk about some show somehow they’ve seen it! Ya know PBS is only for the intellectual!


167 posted on 06/11/2007 12:21:35 PM PDT by LYSandra
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To: romanesq
"lame"

This reminds me of reading through 7 volumes of Stephen King's "Dark Tower" series, through the good and the bad, only to reach the end and...... duh!

It goes back to the beginning to start again.

Stephen King you b@stard.

168 posted on 06/11/2007 12:25:09 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: ELS

Ya think we can all fit in the Soprano’s booth? I don’t live too far from there...


169 posted on 06/11/2007 12:47:29 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: NoobRep

Not brilliant. Just a cop-out.

My favorite episode is on A&E tonight...where Chris and the other guy take the big Russian out to the Pine Barrens to whack him and get lost in the freezing cold woods. I laugh every time I watch it...how the two New Jersey Mafiosi apply their survival skills. I laugh just thinking about it.


170 posted on 06/11/2007 12:52:55 PM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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To: Afronaut

I hate Paulie. I would whack him myself...for free.


171 posted on 06/11/2007 12:57:06 PM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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To: Pharmboy

Well, so far I count four interested people. That’s one booth. If we get four more, they could sit in the booth across the aisle...? I have never been there, so I don’t know if they have any seating areas for more than four people.


172 posted on 06/11/2007 1:07:48 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS

“Hmmm, I think NJ FReepers need to meet up at Holsten’s. Anyone interested?”

LOL, been there, no onion rings on the menu!


173 posted on 06/11/2007 1:09:59 PM PDT by jerseyfrank
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To: JoizeyGoil

“Can you please tell me if it was it during this current season that Bobby said that “everything just goes black”? I think that is absolutely THE most important line, in regard to how it all ended...but I wonder why no one is talking about that statement. Maybe they didn’t catch the line? (I don’t have HBO so haven’t seen this season yet.)

My “take” is the same as some of the posters have written. I believe that someone shot Tony and, from his viewpoint everything suddenly cut to black, so that’s what the viewers saw. I think it was important that it didn’t fade -it happened abruptly.”

Watch episode 79 again when Torciano gets whacked at dinner with Sil. Sil never heard the shot. That was emphasized, and even discussed in a later episode. A clue of things to come.


174 posted on 06/11/2007 1:16:44 PM PDT by jerseyfrank
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To: RDTF
Tony died.

I was startled and frustrated by the ending. At first, I thought my cable had cut out. I still don't like it, but it only makes sense if Tony got whacked without ever seeing it coming. Phil Leotardo's death was foreshadowing: Phil never had any inkling that his killer was standing there then blammo!

There was a lot of building suspense in the scene in the diner. We kept seeing these shots of the guy sitting alone at the counter, the other guy sitting alone at a table... cutting to Meadow trying to park... cutting back to the table. A couple hip-hop types enter. Tension was building. Whenever the door jangles, Tony looks up then we cut to see who's coming in. When Meadow finally parks and runs across the street, we see Tony and hear the door jangle and instead of switching to Tony's perspective seeing Meadow enter the diner, we cut to blackness and silence.

Why? Because Tony got whacked at that moment. His perspective was blackness and silence.

What's the alternative? That life just went on for the little gangster family? If so, why would any competent director build up all that tension then just pull the plug? If that's all the director is trying to convey why not just dolly the camera back and give us a wide shot of the diner which fades to credits while the music continues as it always has with every other ending of a Sopranos episode since day one? It just doesn't make sense that Chase would make such a departure this one time without intending to convey the idea that something sudden and abrupt and unexpected happened. Something which we associate with blackness and silence... death.

I think the point of just ending it is that just like Phil dropping to the ground, Just like Tony (I think), there is no warning, no explanation, no "what happened next". Like Bobby said, in this season's first episode and in the flashback in the second to last episode, "you probably never see it coming." Ironically - both Bobby and Sil did see it coming. But not Phil, and not, I think, Tony.

I still think the ending sucks - because it is ambiguous. If I were David Chase, and if I'd decided to do the cut to black thing, I would at least have tagged on some kind of epilogue after the credits where we hear Carmella or Meadow screaming, and see a figure rushing out the exit to a waiting car.

175 posted on 06/11/2007 1:17:46 PM PDT by ChuxsterS (I say we put a hit on David Chase)
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To: Hugin; Saint Reagan
Tony asked Bobby what he thought the end was like earlier. Bobby supposed everything just goes black. Tony was killed, then everything went black for him. I think you nailed it.

If he would have been whacked they would have showed it. All the sudden they're cleaning up the show?

176 posted on 06/11/2007 1:19:30 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: ELS

Just give me notice and I’ll be there...


177 posted on 06/11/2007 1:25:00 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: NoobRep

That’s an awful lot of intuitive reasoning for a blank screen. It could be, you know, that Chase took the easy way out. And/or knew that people could make up their own endings, which is still the easy way out. And/or that he took the crass, calculatedly commercial step of leaving an opening for a film version, at the price of infuriating the show’s fans. Now if Chase had previously vowed there would be no rehash/movie version/alternate ending DVD, then the blank screen could be interpreted that Tony was killed and that has a certain sterile brilliance to it.


178 posted on 06/11/2007 1:30:52 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: RDTF

Did anyone else think their cable went out?


179 posted on 06/11/2007 1:31:48 PM PDT by jsmorg1
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To: padre35

Sorry...what’s “wings”?


180 posted on 06/11/2007 1:32:21 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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