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To: LadyNavyVet
Educate them, and they’ll make trouble.

Well to them, it would probably be trouble if indeed they are up to no good like you say. To us, it would be like I said, if they are educated, they will become assimilated. I don't really know about the next generation of Mexican children here in America, though. I figure they will learn the language just from being exposed to it. My greatgrandparents imigrated here from Germany in the 1840s. My grandfather and grandmother were both raised in German speaking households yet they knew perfect English by the time they were very young. I am not willing to say that the Mexican children will be ignorant just like their parents. Indoctrinated, maybe. But again, we underestimate the natural intelligence of children. My 15 year old grandaughter has become quite conservative, in spite of the schools best efforts to indoctrinate her.

89 posted on 06/09/2007 8:32:53 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: beckysueb

The number one cause of poverty in this country is lack of education. The number two cause is out-of-wedlock childbearing, and Hispanics are at the top of the charts on both. Check out the National Center for Education Statistics website. It’s nced.ed.gov. Hispanics have the highest dropout rate of ANY demographic, including blacks. High school dropouts do not climb the economic ladder; they stay on the bottom rung.

Go to the National Center for Health Statistics (cdc.gov/nchs) and you will find that Hispanics have a higher rate of out-of-wedlock births than ANY other demographic. Single mothers rarely climb the economic ladder, especially if they are also uneducated.

These are facts, not pie-in-the-sky wishful thinking about how things ought to be. This is how things are.

IF they are educated, they will assimilate. But they are not being educated. IF their behavior conforms to that of middle America, they will assimilate. But their behavior does not conform. That is the reality of who these people are, all your wishful thinking to the contrary.


97 posted on 06/09/2007 8:57:51 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: beckysueb

Educate them, and they’ll make trouble.
“Well to them, it would probably be trouble if indeed they are up to no good like you say. To us, it would be like I said, if they are educated, they will become assimilated. I don’t really know about the next generation of Mexican children here in America, though. I figure they will learn the language just from being exposed to it. My greatgrandparents imigrated here from Germany in the 1840s. My grandfather and grandmother were both raised in German speaking households yet they knew perfect English by the time they were very young. I am not willing to say that the Mexican children will be ignorant just like their parents. Indoctrinated, maybe. But again, we underestimate the natural intelligence of children. My 15 year old grandaughter has become quite conservative, in spite of the schools best efforts to indoctrinate her.”

I concur and also would like to point out/clarify some key differences between the groups of early immigrants and todays immagrants. The European and Asian immigration boom produced multiple dialects where the next generation was educated to our culture and assimilated very well as you suggest.

However, the first generation of immigrants had to learn enough english to understand our basic laws and the immigration process and further had to swear allegiance when nationalized to America.

Another thing, Americans did use these early immigrants almost as slave labor at first, similar to the Mexicans but it was We the People who forced assimilation to our values, not the governments and current elites corrupt standards.

We gave them no social hand outs by the governmnent. The early immigrants were given work, for and shelter by benevolent American citizens whom it was their choice to offer and this also taught general codes of benevolent behavior to the European/Asian immigrants whom assimilated and passsed down these values to their kids.

In this case of Mexican immigration boom, the government and elites are forcing benevolence as an entity on the American people and we resent it to the point of near violence.

This backward process changes our entire culture and respect for the rule of law and due process forever and our opportunity as individual Americans to be benevolent to foreigners as a whole. It forces We the People to correct the elites as enemies within at a time we have serious enemies outside our doorstep and further at a time where We the People have to deal with very big economic storms now begining to really hurt us as all as well (except of course for the elites and the corporations they serve).

Also, the lesson and benefits of individual benevolence as responsible citizens is lost to the immigrants as government hands this over at no cost to the immigrant. The elites have cheapened our citizenship and access to the best opporuntity for the good life on earth at the expense of the Americans tax-payer. It’s communism at it’s core, it’s evil and it will stop one way or the other.


104 posted on 06/09/2007 9:11:02 AM PDT by quant5
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