Posted on 05/06/2007 8:04:51 PM PDT by null and void
For everyone who complains that all UFO photos are blurry...
Last month (April 2007), my wife and I were on a walk when we noticed a very large, very strange "craft" in the sky. My wife took a picture with her cell phone camera (first photo below). A few days later a friend (and neighbor) lent me his camera and came with me to take photos of this "craft". We found it and took a number of very clear photos. Picture #4 is taken from right below this thing and I must give my friend credit as I was not brave enough to get close enough to take this picture myself!
The craft is almost completely silent and moves very smoothly. It usually moves slowly until it decides to take off. Then it moves VERY quickly and is out of sight in the blink of an eye. MORE THAN ANYTHING I simply want to understand what this is and why it is here?
We found your show with Google and I have listened for a few nights now. I have decided that if anyone can help me understand what this thing is, it is you and your audience. I must admit I am deeply unsettled by this thing. I have never seen anything like this in my life... Location: I would prefer not to say for now.
--Chad
Oh, I'm not Chad...
Hey, nully, I noticed the thingies move around the center circle. What’s up with that?
Whether or not there is life on other planets (I tend to go with not given the lack of success SETI has had), they most certainly don’t possess warp drive.
My guess is this object is a highly evolved ceiling fan.
Thanks.
I tend to find your logic quite plausible . . . as here.
Though . . . I don’t always agree 100% with you. Thankfully. Can’t have one of us being excess.
Yes. I think the Scriptures about Salvation are more than reasonably clear.
It’s just that free will/election thing that’s paradoxical and still more than a bit mysterious.
"Not worthy" is an ASSUMPTION.
There is plausibly [even from our finite perspective] . . . plausibly several reasons God chose to mention things as He did.
1. God's priorities for us humans etc. were better served without such a priority given to any off-planet critters.
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2. He didn't mention the civilizations which were clearly or at least evidently flourishing BEFORE the world was "void and without form," either.
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3. It may have mangled the priorities for THOSE critters to have changed the way(s) they were left out of the Scriptural account.
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4. It may have distorted too much God's Good General classified info stuff vis a vis satan and satan's plans with some such critters vis a vis the END TIMES.
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I consider your ASSUMPTIONS about Genesis vis a vis ET’s etc. to be far
MORE ASSUMPTION
than even extrapolation or inference.
Given the silence of Scripture in terms of clear statements on the subject, that’s all anyone’s perspective or construction on reality in this ball park can be—your’s included.
I think there are far more bits of Scripture to support my inferences and extrapolations than support yours.
Besides, your construction on reality leaves God Almighty being a much smaller God than I have found Him to be.
LOL.
Wellll, given that the ceiling fan’s DNA appears to be related to Japanese technicians . . . I think I’ll defer signing on to that construction on reality.
SETI is a joke. A disinformation joke. Check out Stanton Friedman’s website for an excellent article shredding SETI.
I think it’s good to avoid assuming things based on SETI whether about warp drives or a host of other such things.
In my many readings of the bible I have not stumbled across the mention of life on other planets. You'll have to point that out.
The authentic BOOK OF ENOCH ]quoted or mentioned several times in the Canon] also mentions the WATCHERS.
And, WATCHERS seems to be a very good description of the critters and their motives/actions for their current earth focused activities . . .especially if the ET’s are in cahoots with satan regarding END TIMES events.
Re “normal” UFO’s
such goings on around the center have been postulated to have something to do with the propulsion dynamics, mechanisms vis a vis anti-gravity factors etc.
In case you have something to contribute from your Enoch scholarly studies.
Thx
Ummm...As to "why," asking God "why" He does things is a fool's game, as Job learned. Presumably God might make other intelligent beings for the same reason He made us.
With regard to why He didn't tell us about having populated other planets, why should He have told us anything? Was He obligated to? Is it possible that you might stand before God one day and say "God, you made real live Tralfamadorians and you didn't tell us! That's not fair!"
The Lord doesn't owe us insight on this matter. For that matter, He doesn't owe us our next breath. Perhaps he did populate other planets with other beings, just as he populated the earth with us. On the other hand, maybe He didn't. Either way, the prerogative and the power to do so are all His. He is not bound by our extrapolations from Scripture.
My friend’s just asked his Japanese colleague if these symbols on a photo can be Japanese Katakana words and got negative answer. He says that these characters only _look_ like Katakana and they do not have any sense at all.
Excellent points.
It seems to puny me . . .
that it's exceedingly plausible . . . given . . .
1. that God has been busy about the rearing, training, purifying . . . of "rulers and reigners with Christ" . . .
2. All Creation earnestly waits yearingingly groaning in expectation and ?hope? for the manifestation of the sons of God . . .
why wouldn't 90 or so purported races of ET's Scriptural: "WATCHERS" be interested in observing the climax of history as we've known it into the GRADUATION events related to the installment of said "rulers and reigners" over said other planet critters?
I'd be interested in the traning program and goings ons related to my future bosses!
Of course, God has them on a short tether vis a vis their dinking around with us here.
I don't know what percentage of said ET critters are simply fallen angels/demonic forces 100% in satan's control and employ; what percentage are bona fide ET's, WATCHERS merely sucked into satan's influence and manipulations toward aiding his END TIMES efforts . . .
But clearly, God has it ALL in His hands for working out HIS purposes with ALL of HIS CREATION. And that's more than pretty good alright 100% fine with me.
Thanks. Was curious about that.
BTW, SOME ET’s have been characterized as looking oriental, Chinese, though, IIRC.
I understand and sympathize with this thought because I used to think the same thing. I would love to explain how an ex amateur astronomer has come to grips with the idea that God seems smaller because the universe seems less important and is not teeming with life as I had once thought. I just don't think you would appreciate my input and I have a problem with rejection.
Your homepage indicates you are or were a mormon. Is that the case?
How many times have you read the bible? Please be honest.
Same question as 379.
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