Posted on 05/06/2007 3:13:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I need help on installing a Windows XP upgrade to a Windows ME machine. The computer is a Micron Systems IBM-compatible machine with 640.0 mb RAM and a 667 MHz CPU clock. I'm getting the following error after the Windows XP setup restarts the computer:
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer
If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:
Check for viruses on your computer. Remove any newly-installed hard drives or hard drive controllers. Check your hard drive to make sure it is properly configured and terminated. Run CHKDSK /F to check for hard drive corruption, and then restart your computer.
Technical information:
*** STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF8FF9524,0xC0000034,0x00000000,0x00000000)
RAM is 640.0 mb. CPU is 667 MHz.
I like the sound of that. What this machine needs is a firewall. That's why I was interested in XP in the first place; so I could put up an up-to-date firewall program. But if this security/firewall program is compatible with ME, I just solved ALL my problems, for now, and I won't need to worry about the XP hangnail anymore. :-)
Typically it doesn't. It's different memory timings that become an issue like mixing a 4-4-4-12 timing chip with a 5-5-5-18 chip is bad. Another example, you put in a 133mhz chip to upgrade, your system detects this and your old 100mhz chip starts barfing and hanging the system. It's hit or miss in that fashion. Best to only use exact same make, model and size. Personally, for an upgrade, I'd pull the 64s out and just leave the 512 in.
I've also had BSOD installing XP from an upgrade version, even on a clean disk. I've probably installed XP several hundred times. I would try installing it from a full version but I have access to all that in piles here in my office. Once installed successfully on the full version you can change the CDkey over to the one on your license and be legit.
Yup. That was it. It's been a long time since I've done it but that has the ring of truth to it.
Well, I checked that out, and my 512 is a PC100/133, and the 64s are PC133s, so I think I’m OK on that front, anyhow.
Probably, but they may have different CAS Latency values which is why until you get a stable upgraded system, I'd yank 'em out. 512mb is plenty for XP specially if it's just during the installation.
I’m not throwing them out at this time. I have a total of 640.0 mb and the system seems to run fine at this point. When I do throw them out, I’ll just get another 512 PC100/133 to match.
Wasn’t suggesting you throw it out. I was saying take them out, see if your BSOD install problem goes away. When installing an OS, any OS, pare the system down to least amount of stuff. No extra cards, etc. Mixed memory, in general is one of the first things to look at on BSOD.
You may not have a problem with ME, as it’s entire max memory footprint falls inside of 512mb. Depending on how the chips are installed, 512mb could be entirely on the one chip, not spanning all 3. XP however will attempt to use up to 2gbs for the 32 bit home version, meaning the memory footprint will encompass ALL those chips. If there’s an issue with incompatibility between them, XP will barf out.
As a simple way to eliminate that as an issue, and believe me, I’ve been a tech since the 80s, it won’t be the first time it’s happened, you simply pull those out for now and try the install. If it installs, you’ve got the answer, if it fails, it’s something else. Either way, you don’t know until you know.
Sounds good to me. My apologies for the misunderstanding. Thanks. I think I’ll do that; this thing could be licked yet!
I'm not sure that will even be a problem. I'm using XP at the office as well on a computer with 1 gb RAM.
Just to be clear, the way an OS uses memory is that it paints an array across whatever is available. The maximum possible memory that ME could use is 512mb. XP is 2GB.
My point was that you could put 200000GB of ram on a window ME computer, it will still only use 512mb of it.
Sure, but figuring out what is a craplette and what you shouldn’t uninstall is tough. There is a program called ccleaner which helps alot, but is not infallible. I just put together a new install of WinXP on a system that I use for testing that had ‘rotted’ and performance was up substantially over the craplette install. It makes a huge difference with older machines.
I don’t run a virus checker, I use online email (gmail) which I download with Thunderbird, and a hardware firewall NAT router. I don’t randomly download anything on this WinXP system, which I use for software testing.
For web browsing I run Ubuntu Linux.
This is the catch. As XP originally came out it would run OK on such a machine. But XP is now up to SP2 and actually SP3 if you count all the fixes after you install WinXP/SP2 on a machine. All these updates and fixes make 1.5ghz CPU and 512mb-1gb ram a more realistic minimum in my opinion
#2 I'm just about positive you can clean install with your XP upgrade edition provided you have a CD disc of an earlier OS to insert when the XP installation asks you to....To verify that you own an earlier OS to qualify to use an upgrade edition
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