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Where Are All The Men?
fox news | Freeplancer

Posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:36 AM PDT by freeplancer

First there was Salt Lake City, and now Virgian Tech. Trey Perkins, a 19 year old student who is now on fox News spewed his story about being in the same room as the gunman while he reloaded his weapons at least once. Did he get up and charge the gunman with reckless abandon to save his fellow students? NO

When the SLC shooting took place, the local news broadcast a cell video of the shooter discharging his weapons. While the owner of the cell phone stood there and filmed the shooter, who coincidently had his back to the camera, he did nothing. Cowards, bystanders, and wimps. I am ashamed and disgusted. Maybe it is my military training or having being in a war zone that makes me know I would take action or die trying.

I would not be jumping out of windows or filming a murderer in action, and I hope to God that whoever reads this would not either. Where are all the men?


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To: MizSterious
You just dismissed the student who despite being wounded held the door shut as a coward because he didn't, at the spur of the moment, jump the gunman. Forget the fact that he probably saved some lives, he wasn't good enough for you.

But good to know you aren't blaming anyone.

181 posted on 04/17/2007 9:03:10 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: soxfan

No and I sure didn’t mean to imply that there was anything wrong with their character.

God bless them and their families and God guide our Leaders so that they don’t try to make political hay out of this and make matters worse than they are.


182 posted on 04/17/2007 9:03:51 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Won't vote for a liberal in the democrat party, won't vote for one in the Republican party. Ever)
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To: Toskrin
"How do you know that no one tried to do anything? They may have tried and been unsuccesful. Do you know that no one was moving towards the killer to stop him when they were shot?"

What were the total number of victims, (killed and wounded), over 60? You'd think that of 60 people some of them would have been able to get to this guy if they tried. I must agree with the original poster who is mystified as to how this lone gunman could possibly not have been beaten to a bloody pulp by somebody before he managed to kill and wound so many people. He only had a handgun, not an automatic weapon. AND WHERE WERE THE POLICE? Didn't the first murder take place hours before the final rampage?

183 posted on 04/17/2007 9:03:52 AM PDT by Oceans99
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To: Pukin Dog
Shepard Smith made me gag this morning.

After his interview with a student who survived with a gunshot to his arm, Smith mounted his pulpit to lament the fate of this twenty-year-old "child".

Here I am at age nineteen, after having "Seen The Elephant"...


184 posted on 04/17/2007 9:04:13 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: Chuck Dent
Yep.

Look at how the world reacted to the movie '300'.

In a correct society, the bravery portrayed in that movie would be considered normal, instead of deserving of all the attention and hype.

Women were transfixed by a society devoid of fat men, while the men got to fantasies about women who actually wanted sex without dinner and flowers.

185 posted on 04/17/2007 9:04:33 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: freeplancer
Do you think someone who has not faced bullets and bombs would post this? Go walk your Yorkie

Internet tough guy. Bet you'd be the biggest pussy in the herd if this happened to you.
186 posted on 04/17/2007 9:04:56 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: meg88

A very fitting tribute.


187 posted on 04/17/2007 9:06:16 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: battlegearboat
I don't watch Fox News before 3pm pacific time.

If you watch Fox long enough before those hours, it could make you gay.

188 posted on 04/17/2007 9:07:20 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

One source says it lasted about a half an hour, but no telling, because under duress like that, it’s hard to say reliably.

Say what you want about these kids (well, they aren’t kids, they’re all around the same age as our fighting men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan), but I was saddened (not angry as some keep insisting—although I’m starting to get angry at people who say that) that most chose flight over fight. I’m sure their parents are gratified that they’re still with us, though.

One other thing to consider. This guy was essentially a bully. Bullies are often the easiest to back down, because they never expect anyone to stand up to them. Had several people rushed him, the chances are actually pretty good that they could have taken him down before he got his bearings.

But that’s just a guess, so please don’t anyone start whining that “I wasn’t there so...” Of course I wasn’t, and neither was anyone else on FR, in all probability.


189 posted on 04/17/2007 9:08:29 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: soxfan
"There was nothing wrong with their inner character."

Character is partly moulded by society, and our society has become a feminized, self-centered study in narcissism and weakness. How many students at Virginia Tech are members of a "gay-straight" alliance, or are feminazis and radical liberals? How many of them do you suppose are anti-2nd Amendment, anti-war and hate President Bush for his percieved machoism? My sincere prayers go up to God in Heaven for the souls of the murdered and their families, but we have indeed become a feminized, unmanly nation.

190 posted on 04/17/2007 9:10:15 AM PDT by Oceans99
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To: LWalk18

Bite me. I never said he was a coward. I’m sick of people putting words in my mouth.


191 posted on 04/17/2007 9:10:21 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: freeplancer
Where are all the men?

Serving in the Armed Forces, or old.
192 posted on 04/17/2007 9:11:42 AM PDT by glaseatr (Proud Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep A. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Just as you cant have cajon without creole, you cant have Mexican food without Mexicans. Having lived less than 30 miles from the Mexican border for half of my life, I have decided to accept it, and just never live anywhere else.

I am nothing without my weekly lard injection. Trying to create Mexican food with Canola oil should be a felony.

193 posted on 04/17/2007 9:11:45 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: over3Owithabrain
How about telling yourself beforehand what you would do if and when you get in a situation?

I agree. I think it's particularly important for those of us who carry a concealed pistol. Having never been shot at, I can't say with 100% certainty what I'd do or feel. But it is important to give the matter serious consideration - a little forethought could save a life if such a situation happens.

194 posted on 04/17/2007 9:12:05 AM PDT by opus86
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To: MizSterious

>Young strapping lads, however, didn’t have that “Let’s roll” quality.<

Too many young strapping lads have had their mommies fighting their battles for them for too long.


195 posted on 04/17/2007 9:12:08 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Go Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: MizSterious

OK. Nobody is blaming the dead. I will stop saying that.

If you, and others, will stop disparaging their “courage” and “manhood”. It is irrelevant, and more precisely, it is incorrect. Those victims’ (or lack of) actions were completely human and perfectly normal.


196 posted on 04/17/2007 9:12:26 AM PDT by soxfan
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To: freeplancer

“Let’s Roll” has gone down a rabbit hole it seems!


197 posted on 04/17/2007 9:13:51 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog

“I am nothing without my weekly lard injection. Trying to create Mexican food with Canola oil should be a felony.”

It is in my house :P


198 posted on 04/17/2007 9:13:57 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Won't vote for a liberal in the democrat party, won't vote for one in the Republican party. Ever)
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To: freeplancer

darn someone else beat me to the

Mandatory Ofrafication and castration classes.


199 posted on 04/17/2007 9:15:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: soxfan

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL. It is normal to try to defend yourself, and for those with character, it’s normal to try to defend others too. I think what’s so alarming here is that some of us are old enough to remember how easy it was for Hitler to round up the Jewish people, and how docile they were as they lined up to go to the concentration camps or their executions.


200 posted on 04/17/2007 9:15:50 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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