[Victoria Delsoul]

Well, Rush has a very good point in saying that the Clinton machine is out to get Rudy and not Obama. Rudy is a danger to them, and they have the help of the media, and some useful idiots on our side who are desperately trying to stop Rudy - the impact would be a victory for Hillary. However, it's up to the voters to stop this from happening, and frankly, I don't think Rush's scenario will happen, but it certainly could. In the end, it's up to the electorate to decide and I believe in that case, Rudy will beat Hillary.

We just have to stick together and not allow Hillary and her surrogates from the left and the malcontents from the right to discourage us. It's not about us personally, it's about America, it's about our troops, it's about Israel, it's about the war on terror, it's about our security and the future of our children.

Now, if you excuse me, I'm just going to mope around some more and pray for the victims and their relatives, and also pray that neither myself nor my students ever encounter such a violent situation.

[HitmanLV]

Very good point, Victoria. I think Hilly has a decent shot at winning, and would have to be considered a favorite against a traditional GOP nominee. She would cream Dubya if she faced him, for example, and guys like Hunter, Thompson, and the rest of the pack would probably suffer Dole 1996 type losses.

The only successful GOP nominee is one who can win over independents, and turn a few blue states red to offset the likely GOP loss of Ohio in 2008. All else being equal except Ohio, and the Dems win.