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ART BELL: Major Ed Dames sees wheat famine of Biblical proportion
Art Bell show ^ | 4-15-07 | dfu

Posted on 04/15/2007 10:18:51 PM PDT by doug from upland

Listen to your local affiliate or through the website.

Remote viewer Major Ed Dames is predicting a major famine due to a wheat fungus. We do not have enought pesticide to protect both soybeans and wheat. Africa will be hit very hard.


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1 posted on 04/15/2007 10:18:53 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: All

The sun is more active now than it has been in a thousand years.


2 posted on 04/15/2007 10:19:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

It’s Bush’s fault!


3 posted on 04/15/2007 10:20:29 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: doug from upland

... every hundred thousand years this solar high comes along, between ice ages?


4 posted on 04/15/2007 10:20:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: doug from upland
Remote viewer Major Ed Dames is predicting a major famine due to a wheat fungus. We do not have enought pesticide to protect both soybeans and wheat. Africa will be hit very hard.

Too bad for Africa ... someone pass the salt.

5 posted on 04/15/2007 10:20:55 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: doug from upland

Never heard of this crackpot.


6 posted on 04/15/2007 10:21:34 PM PDT by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: onyx

I think he’s kinda like an x files kinda guy.


7 posted on 04/15/2007 10:22:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Ed Dames has long since been discredited in the past.


8 posted on 04/15/2007 10:23:38 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: onyx

For several years, he headed a military intelligence project in remote viewing.


9 posted on 04/15/2007 10:24:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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Ed Dames has long since been discredited in the past when he failed to get some other predictions right.


10 posted on 04/15/2007 10:24:27 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: doug from upland

LOL -— remote viewing -— all riiiiiiiiiiiightie.


11 posted on 04/15/2007 10:24:48 PM PDT by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: doug from upland
We do not have enough pesticide to protect both soybeans and wheat.

"We" don't.... Syngenta does.

12 posted on 04/15/2007 10:25:01 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: doug from upland

Listening to the Midnight Truckers Radio Network. Just don’t like hearing about people driving home from the bar, and getting picked up by a UFO.

(That’s all I ever heard on that show.)


13 posted on 04/15/2007 10:25:24 PM PDT by Springman (Why is ? coming up, when I use ')
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To: doug from upland
Geez. What disaster hasn't Dames told Art Bell's audience about. He has predicted massive earthqauakes, disease, and famine for years and years.

I guess some year he spouts off, something bad will actually happen so he can say he predicted it. He is just boring after all this time.

As Borat might say-

Art Bell is nice. This guy... not so nice

14 posted on 04/15/2007 10:25:54 PM PDT by Nachum
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Remote viewing might indeed be a serious & credible art but Ed Dames has been roundly criticized for not following the true principles of the art. The fact he has had notable misses in the past should cause one to be skeptical of these new predictions on his part.


15 posted on 04/15/2007 10:27:04 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: doug from upland
Sounds like Joseph and Pharaoh. Maybe this guy is right about it being Biblical, but that he's just a few thousand years off.

-PJ

16 posted on 04/15/2007 10:28:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: doug from upland
STREAMING AUDIO
17 posted on 04/15/2007 10:31:00 PM PDT by WSGilcrest (Mikey likes it!)
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To: doug from upland

Remote viewing? I’m surprised at you Doug. Why don’t we just break out our bags of runes and Ouiji boards while we’re at it?


18 posted on 04/15/2007 10:31:53 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Nachum
THE CONTRADICTORY VIEWS OF MAJOR ED DAMES

by Peter P.

In the early 1980s, there was a breakthrough discovery that was soon utilized by the U.S. military. That discovery was a technique coined "remote viewing" (or "coordinate remote viewing") - the ability to use the unconscious mind to accurately gather data and transmit it to the conscious mind. Only later did the public learn of a top-secret unit that employed this technique to gather intelligence and pinpoint unknown targets.

One person inextricably linked to that "remote viewing" unit, in the minds of many present day late-night radio listeners, is Major Ed Dames.

Maj. Dames now works in the private sector, as president of "technical remote viewing" company PSI TECH. It was he who, in the last 15+ years, in his words, "Took the protocols down from a 6 month training regime to about 3 weeks, and at PSI TECH we taught this to scientists and engineers in a 10 day very intense project. I cut all the fat off the training program... and modified and finessed it." [1] It is Dames who has made a number of radio appearances, on which he touted PSI TECH's remote viewed predictions.

So how accurate was information collected by early "remote viewing" According to Joe McMoneagle, another member of the government unit and author of 'Mind Trek', it varied from 35% to 85% depending on the person and other non-specific variables. [2]

That was then, this is now.

According to Maj. Dames, after almost two decades of modification, "The most that we, including myself, the best that we as individuals can do, even the experts, is about 90%... However, when a team of remote viewers, in a team of 5 or 6 people - when they work alone, independently - the mutually corroborating data is 100% correct." [3]

Such a team, involving about ten remote viewers over a nine-month period [4], viewed a cylindric object - released by an alien intelligence - headed towards Earth; it carried a "plant pathogen" that would kill green plants on Earth. This prediction was made before the Hale-Bopp comet passed, in fact the cylinder was "remote viewed" being released from the comet. Last November, Dames said, "I'm saying, as you know, this plant pathogen that WE'RE predicting actually impacts in Africa sometime between December and February." [5]

Remember, to be 100% accurate, a team - such as the one at PSI TECH - must work the target. (Hence my capitalizations of WE.) And the team, after nine months of sessions, predicted an actual impact in Africa.

During a February 9 radio appearance, Dames noted, "WE ran more remote viewing sessions, did more work, and that particular cylinder is still en route to Earth intercept. WE do have it's expected Earth entry point and that is over Northwest Continental Africa, Mauritania, and it will begin to disintegrate there, moving to the southeast. The impact, from the studies that WE have done, the impact is expected along an imaginary line from Eritrea in the north to Swaziland in the south, but the center of mass in the Burundi, Lake Victoria region, where there will actually be a remnant of the cylinder that WE expect to impact and crater." [6]

Still on-target, the team "remote viewed" - accent on VIEW - a remnant of the cylinder that was expected to impact and crater.

Here is our first contradiction, albeit a minor one. Did they view it impacting or not? The first set of team sessions, as discussed by Dames in November, revealed an "actual impact". Now, with additional sessions, an impact is ''expected''. To expect something to happen is one step up from guessing it will. Or perhaps too much emphasis is being placed on that one word - "expect". After all, it could've been a slip of the tongue on Dames' part.

Cut to late April, at least two months after the predicted arrival date of the 'plant pathogen' cylinder - and no actual impact. At that time, Dames amended the original view with, "The cylinder is no longer detectable (by remote viewing). The cylinder, in essence, evaporated in the skies over Africa and the spores are over Africa right now." He added, "We nailed down the nature of this plant pathogen... It is a fungus. It is a super blight."[7]

He went on to say it would soon spread, via the Trade Winds, over Latin America and the Caribbean. How quickly? "The Trade Winds will quickly carry this, in a matter of weeks, to the Caribbean & Latin America.", Dames said. [8]

But if the team was wrong about the impact, could it be mistaken about the spores? That is not the only contradiction. But another example should be used to exemplify the other contradiction, the matter of time-frames.

In November ('97), Dames offered, "WE used the search cue of 'next nuclear attack' and WE qualified that with 'intent to kill' and 'massive casualties', and what WE got was a very clear picture at the end of a week , of the North Koreans using a nuclear weapon against the South Koreans. Now analytically we think... analytically, now... that this event may occur before the end of the winter."

Art Bell, the radio host interviewing Dames, asked, "Before the end of this winter?"

Dames replied, "Before the end of this winter." [9]

How is a time-frame established? In a later broadcast, Dames explained, "When we search out a specific target, if we do not constrain the search to time - to the present, the future or the past - then we don't know where we are in time... You want to constrain the search to a certain era, a certain point in time." [10] In other words, not by analyzing the data but by constraining the search.

Which is another contradiction.

So how did Dames explain the non-occurrence of such an event, come late April; over a full month into Spring?

In Dames' words, "What we can't do accurately is look at the time windows We're very loose in time - 3 to 6 months minimally. It's very difficult to establish precise times in the future. We can describe events very accurately. For instance, we're stating that a nuclear weapon will be used on the Korean Peninsula. The next use will be there but we can only look at the scenario that we describe that says it will occur at a time when meetings break down between the North and South, and the North is starving." [11]

Meetings between the two sides have broken down at least three times in the last six months and the North Koreans have been starving even longer. Those are not unique occurrences, so how accurate can they be as event markers? Such markers may occur, over and over, for months... or years.

Almost in the same breath, on Korea, he added, "I think we're hours or days from something horrible. We know that the scenario will start as a ground war. How fast it will escalate to the use of a nuclear weapon, I don't know, but that will be next and that is what we stand by." [12]

We don't know when it will happen, but we're days away from it. Huh When both the plant pathogen and nuclear attack events were predicted, it was in the context of a team-viewed event and predicated on 100% accuracy. To claim otherwise now, for whatever reason, looks at the very least like contradictory claims -- and at the most, like furious backpedaling.

Contradictions aside, the bottom line is this -- If you can't accurately pinpoint the time-frame, but still say when to expect an event, you'll never be 100% accurate. To claim otherwise is foolhardy - or worse.

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Bibliography:

[1] TRANSCRIPTS, at: http://www.artbell.com Ed Dames on April 24, 1998; part 1, pp. 9 of 18

[2] "Major Ed Dames and his Remote Viewed Prophecies - Addendum" by Greg Wright, MUFON - RIVERSIDE, CA CHAPTER http://www.blackhole.net/mufon/text/dames2.htm

[3] TRANSCRIPTS, at: http://www.artbell.com Ed Dames on Nov 25, 1997; part 1 (of 8), pp. 9 & 10 of 15
[4] "Major Ed Dames and his Remote Viewed Prophecies" by Greg Wright, MUFON - RIVERSIDE, CA CHAPTER http://www.blackhole.net/mufon/text/dames.htm

[5] TRANSCRIPTS, at: http://www.artbell.com Ed Dames on Nov. 25, 1997; part 5 (of 8), pp. 5 of 17

[6] TRANSCRIPTS, at: Ibid. Ed Dames on Feb. 9, 1998; part 3 (of 8), pp. 4 & 5 of 18

[7] TRANSCRIPTS, at: Ibid. Ed Dames on April 24, 1998; part 1, pp. 15 & 16 of 18 [8] TRANSCRIPTS, at: Ibid. Ed Dames on April 24, 1998; part 2, page 4 of 19

[9] TRANSCRIPTS, at: Ibid. Ed Dames on Nov 25, 1997; part 2 (of 8), pp. 16 & 17 of 20
[10]TRANSCRIPTS, at: Ibid. Ed Dames on April 24, 1998; part 1, pp. 12 of 18

[11]TRANSCRIPTS, at: Ibid. Ed Dames on April 24, 1998; part 2, pp. 9 of 19

[12]TRANSCRIPTS, at: Ibid. Ed Dames on April 24, 1998; part 2, pp. 11 of 19

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Peter P. is a Phoenix-based freelance writer who has split his work life during the past ten years between journalism (both as a freelancer & on staff of a biweekly alternative paper) and assisting the developmentally disabled. He is currently tracking 1998 predictions, which is part of the reason for 'Earth-Changes Weekly'. Subscription to the list is free, and there are various methods of interacting with it. For further information contact: ptp@primenet.com

19 posted on 04/15/2007 10:32:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Zeroisanumber

Surprised at me? I’ve taken no position on remote viewing. This is a fun show sometimes, and I thought you guys would have fun commenting on it.


20 posted on 04/15/2007 10:34:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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