Posted on 04/05/2007 8:46:45 PM PDT by Pistolshot
I came here in 1998 looking for conservative, logical, thoughtful conversation and debate on the things that matter to us the most. I was a Reagan Republican. One of those who had watched in horror as our embassy staff in Tehran was taken by fanatics. The answer should have been overwhelming force, but it was Carter, that limp-wristed, can’t-we-just talk-this-out, weakling who had made the military a shambles, and stripped it of its soul because of VietNam. I knew from the beginning that there was no room in this world for weakness and that was the beginning of my road to conservatism.
Now here we are, in the beginnings of a campaign to deny the Democrats not only the White House, but the two houses of Congress. It is extremely early in this race, the leading candidates that have announced are far from acceptable to a large majority of us. Yet, day after day on this site we have the Rudy machine, the McCain people, Mitt’s people, and every other supported candidate backer posting missives about their guy. Some are repeated vitriol that has no debatable content, and only begs to be ignored. Some of it is the adage of ‘Don’t like it, too bad. He will be our candidate.’ In the past I’ve seen posters here who were thoughtful, logical, literally passionate about impeaching Clinton, but with a HUGE degree of civility.
What is taking place here, and I am guilty of it too, so don’t think I am pointing fingers here, is the destruction of what is good about this site. WE ARE CONSERVATIVES, first and foremost. We have our passions that lead us to the candidates we have running. Debate is the give and take of ideas to reach a consensus about a direction. A direction we should all look at for the country, not because of the ‘he can beat Hillary’ dogma, but because the candidate we choose is THE one to carry what our hopes and dreams are for this great nation. I have seen posters here demean others, insult integrities, bash people they DON’T EVEN KNOW ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, and generally look like some of the slime that lurks on DU.
We are supposed to be better than that. It’s time we stop acting like we cannot debate without insult, stop treating each other as if our opinions don’t matter or our vote. It’s time that Jim starts looking around and suspending or closing some accounts for this type of behavior until it gets under control.
We are not DU here. The candidate we vote to carry the platform will be the one who reaches out to the most diverse among us. If that doesn’t happen for your candidate, I’m sorry. But to stoop to some of the tactics I’ve seen here based on a persons opinion or religion is despicable and speaks poorly for all of us.
-—That’s the new talking point...there’s not a bit of difference between Rudy and Hillary. What can you even say in response to that?
Three words: Commander in Chief.
AreHillary and Guiliani the same? I think not and how about asking the troops for their opinion?-—
If memory serves, and it does, the original poster did not say there was no difference between Rudy and the Witch, he said there was no light between their policies on abortion.
It may not be a big issue to you, but for many it looms as large as slavery once did. If you think you can brow-beat them into putting aside their position you are mistaken. If you think your pro-abortion candidate can win without their votes and support, you may be right, but I really, really doubt it.
For those of us that are dedicated and support the works of the NRA, voting for a candidate that once used lawsuits and the liberal courts to accomplish what he could not through legislative means is a completely out of the question.
Those, I think, are just the simple facts of the matter.
Pot/kettle.
An actual wingnut is a nut with two projections (wings) which allow it to be tightened with the fingers.
I don't know who applied the term 'wingnut' to those on the radical right, but it was certainly a bon mot.
Those on the loony left are mostly referred to as moonbats.
I considered putting a smiley face on it, but realized you are one of the ones around her who actually THINK, so I knew you’d know what I was talking about........LOL.
Don't worry, I'm not. But I am under the impression that I can comment on them as I please as long as I am polite and respectful. I will.
You'd better get used to that thought immediately.
The poster with the chart that lists Hillary as a supporter of the War in Iraq. Yeah, I saw that post — thinks all of us who support Rudy should leave. Whatever.
True, but I’m not trying to foist myself on the forum as a political expert.
ROFLMAO!
You know, it's funny you should mention it -- if things continue on this way, the last four US Presidents could be:
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, (and perhaps Bush again, if Jeb steps up). What next? Chelsea?
Assuming all 100 million voters believe abortion is the single biggest issue facing this country in this post 9/11 world.
That’s nice.
Or what?
No, you're no political expert, that's for sure. Just FR's nastiest and most prominent hater of conservatives and conservatism.
I’ll say as I damn well please as long as I am following JimRob’s rules.
Is that a macro? It must be because you post it all the time.
BTW, so far, my political picks have been more accurate than yours.
And I’m not even paid to have an opinion.
Nor do I need to hit abuse to defend myself on this forum.
-—Another example was that insane decision on Dubai Ports.-—
Schumer, the Democrat started that one and many Republicans were stupid enough to go along just as we’re being asked to go along with this liberal lunacy in the primary. Oh, it’s necessary for the security of the country!
Why would your memory need to serve, when it’s obvious the one post to Howlin directly addresses their similarities regarding abortion and guns and my post was to Hildy?
Don’t try to lecture me. I am pro life and do not have a favorite “announced” candidate.
No, we won't.
Even though you’ve acted like a female Attila the Hun on steroids all day, I haven’t hit abuse on you once.
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