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Rose Fever: Pursuit of the perfect garden (a springtime vanity)
me | 3/18/07 | Knitting a Conundrum

Posted on 03/18/2007 8:05:23 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum

Spring fever has got me. I want to get out of the house, away from the computer, and dig in the dirt. Getting ready to start a new rose bed. Anybody else out there nuts about roses?


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: gardening; roses
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Thank you! :)
I hope to spend time cleaning up the garden beds this weekend. It's difficult to decide where to plant. It will take time to get a plan going but once I get going, hopeful it will be looking good by June. :)
121 posted on 03/23/2007 7:56:35 AM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: theFIRMbss

That was interesting!

And then there's nuts like me who want to recreate historically correct gardens (my backyard project for the future) and we look for varieties that have been grown or are similar to ones that have been grown for hundreds of years.


122 posted on 03/23/2007 7:57:41 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

I was so intimidated by growing roses. But it is not as hard as we think. They are hardier than we think too. Start with one and before you know it, you will have more. ;) If I can do it, anyone can LOL It is possible. :)


123 posted on 03/23/2007 7:58:35 AM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Thanks! :)


124 posted on 03/23/2007 7:58:52 AM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: GodBlessUSA

This house had one raised bed that I had to tear down and rebuild, and one sick tree that still looks like a sapling, though it's 9 years old. Just about a blank slate.

I found out my soil is quite alkaline, so I am in the process of amending it. In mid April, I will be planting five roses (they're reserved and sitting in the greenhouse to root better), all floribundas. It's in front of a bay window, so I had to select carefully.

It's been great fun.


125 posted on 03/23/2007 8:02:04 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: GodBlessUSA

If you can keep the weeds down, they are not nearly as tricky as some people think...now having them be in award winner quality is a different issue...but roses are much easier to grow than a lot of flowers, and if they get enough sunlight, they can last long years with no care even....


126 posted on 03/23/2007 8:12:51 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

I'm not a rose grower, too intimidated,......YOU can do it!! There is great advice on here and its not all that hard...If I can so you...Good Luck!


127 posted on 03/23/2007 8:20:34 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Exactly. And they even bloom for the entire season. Where many perennials have short lived blooms. There are so many varities that don't need that extra care. With Ht's I usually spray 1x month.
128 posted on 03/23/2007 8:23:03 AM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: pinz-n-needlez
here are a few that need no care but food water and sun. :) There are so many that don't require the pampering. Here are just a few favorites (pinks) that I had that did great without me fussing. :) There are so many good hardy roses to choose from. (these are photos from the web)
Carefree Wonder.(love this one, blooms non stop, pink with a white reverse petal)

Our Lady of Guadeloupe,
Bonica
129 posted on 03/23/2007 8:33:52 AM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: GodBlessUSA

Gorgeous! :-)


130 posted on 03/23/2007 8:44:35 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Aren't they. They are so easy to grow too. :)


131 posted on 03/23/2007 8:45:33 AM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: GodBlessUSA; pinz-n-needlez; Knitting A Conundrum

Hey, girlies... enjoying the conversation here. I went out for walkies at lunchtime, found a nice residential street adjacent to the hospital to walk in the Spring sunshine.

Someone's rose bushes are showing 1-2 blooms each already. I had to stop for a breathtaking deep peachy, pink orange HT... huge bloom, old bush.

These are much loved, long cared for rose bushes with a bright southern exposure. L.A. is quite the rose show in springtime.

Guess I'd better "spring" for some film for my camera, not having gone digital like the rest of the world...:)

Pinzie, you can do it!!! Now is the time: start with just 3.


132 posted on 03/23/2007 2:11:35 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Hunter/Poe 2008 "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war")
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To: GodBlessUSA

"Bride's Dream" is sublime, Gracie...;^)


133 posted on 03/23/2007 2:12:23 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Hunter/Poe 2008 "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war")
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To: La Enchiladita

I sort of lean towards Glamis Castle, myself...I like the old style roses best I think.


134 posted on 03/23/2007 2:19:54 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

That way we could admire each other's garden....;^)


135 posted on 03/23/2007 2:53:08 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Hunter/Poe 2008 "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war")
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To: La Enchiladita

Hi Dita :)
Sounds like a wonderful walk! :) I fumbled around trying to bird houses up today. Will try again tomorrow ;).

I can't wait to see blooming roses! :)


136 posted on 03/23/2007 3:17:33 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Digital cameras are so handy! I'm going to take pictures of my garden coming to life! I already have the one pic of what the garden wall looked like after I rebuild it. When I get the roses planted, I will take more pics and watch them grow this year!


137 posted on 03/23/2007 4:38:54 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I'm going to Costco tomorrow. Who knows, I may become tempted in the electronics department...*grin*

Maybe an early birthday present to myself (thinking, thinking...:)


138 posted on 03/23/2007 4:43:34 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Hunter/Poe 2008 "Once again, our government is on the wrong side of the border war")
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To: dandelion; this_ol_patriot; La Enchiladita; pandoraou812; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Sherri-D; Varda; ...

Roses have a long and colorful history. They have been symbols of love, beauty, war, and politics. The rose is, according to fossil evidence, 35 million years old. In nature, the genus Rosa has some 150 species spread throughout the Northern Hemisphere, from Alaska to Mexico and including northern Africa. Garden cultivation of roses began some 5,000 years ago, probably in China. During the Roman period, roses were grown extensively in the Middle East. They were used as confetti at celebrations, for medicinal purposes, and as a source of perfume. Roman nobility established large public rose gardens in the south of Rome. After the fall of the Roman Empire, the popularity of roses seemed to rise and fall depending on gardening trends of the time.

White Rose of York

During the fifteenth century, the rose was used as a symbol for the factions fighting to control England. The white rose symbolized York, and the red rose symbolized Lancaster, as a result, the conflict became known as the "War of the Roses."

Roses were in such high demand during the seventeenth century that royalty considered roses or rose water as legal tender, and they were often used as barter and for payments. Napoleon's wife Josephine established an extensive collection of roses at Chateau de Malmaison, an estate seven miles west of Paris in the 1800s. This garden became the setting for Pierre Joseph Redoute's work as a botanical illustrator. In 1824, he completed his watercolor collection "Les Rose," which is still considered one of the finest records of botanical illustration.

It wasn't until the late eighteenth century that cultivated roses were introduced into Europe from China. Most modern-day roses can be traced back to this ancestry. These introductions were repeat bloomers, making them unusual and of great interest to hybridizers, setting the stage for breeding work with native roses to select for hardiness and a long bloom season. Many of these early efforts by plant breeders are of great interest to today's gardeners.

Carefree delight shrub rose hedge

Roses are once again enjoying a resurgence in popularity, specifically, shrub roses and old garden roses. Gardeners realize that these roses fit the lifestyle of today's gardeners who want roses that are not as demanding with regard to disease control, offer excellent floral quality, have excellent winter hardiness, and fit into shrub borders and perennial gardens without seeming out of place.

To be successful in growing roses in Midwest gardens, one needs to be aware of some basic considerations. Attention to plant selection, a basic knowledge of the wide array of classes available, basic culture information, and information about potential disease and insect problems will go a long way in making roses an enjoyable addition to the garden.

This short guide to rose gardening will hopefully help sort through some of the confusion about roses and entice you to include one or more of these plants in your garden.

(this is from Illinois. The site has much about rose gardening on it:)

http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/roses/history.html


139 posted on 03/24/2007 7:29:39 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I'm going to be out a good bit today, but chat away!


140 posted on 03/24/2007 7:30:09 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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