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Torvalds Talks About GPLv3
Information Week ^ | March 17th | Charles Babcock

Posted on 03/18/2007 7:52:24 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

That Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux operating system, prefers the current version of the General Public License, GPLv2, over the version in development, GPLv3, is no secret. But in a lengthy E-mail response to questions from InformationWeek, he offers a full explanation of what he thinks is superior about GPLv2.

Torvalds says he regrets that the authors of GPLv3 have decided to take aim at political opponents. He has little patience for statements about the "evil and immoral" nature of proprietary code or the "TiVo-ization" of Linux (a reference to set-top box producer TiVo producing a device that runs only one version of Linux), both statements made by Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation and one of the authors of GPLv3. "Me, I just don't care about proprietary software. It's not evil. ... It just doesn't matter," Torvalds says. If the authors of GPLv3 try to impart bans on digital rights management and prohibit other perceived evils, they will clutter up the simplicity of GPLv2 and end up telling people what they can or cannot do with GPL software. "The real basic issue is that I think the FSF simply doesn't have goals that I can personally sign up to," he adds.

(Excerpt) Read more at informationweek.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bestofiggle; foss; fsf; gebait; gpl; howardbeale; linus; linustorvalds; linux; network; oss; threadjester; torvalds; worstofiggle
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To: antiRepublicrat

He seems to even be using his "total world domination" mantra as a signature block on his e-mail.

http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.emulators.cbm/msg/480dbcfbf0d912e5

With slaves like you at his feet, why not?


21 posted on 03/19/2007 1:13:10 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
LOL you seem to be suffering from obsessivenes.

You are incapable of admitting when you're wrong, and as always go on personal attacks and diversions instead of simply being honest. You've been smacked down by the facts a third time this week troll, go back under your bridge.

22 posted on 03/19/2007 1:24:32 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
You've been smacked down by the facts...

LMAO! Obviously I'm the only one posting any links, while you continue your lies in constant defense of leftists and foreigners. Seems you'd get tired of getting bitch slapped on every thread here not just the tech ones, but since you don't mind you do make a good token liberal punching bag.

23 posted on 03/19/2007 1:34:47 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat
Here's the latest report from Netcraft, to once again show how incredibly dishonest you are.
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24 posted on 03/19/2007 1:48:13 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Obviously I'm the only one posting any links

Yay, you figured out to post links. Good for you. They prove nothing.

while you continue your lies

Really? Name one here. But over the last few days you've slithered away after being exposed as a liar over Torvalds' "180" on the GPL3, and after getting beaten down for your very uninformed posts about SCO (you had to retreat to personal attacks on Groklaw again).

You searched for Feist and didn't know how it applied. That is clear evidence that you were in way over your head in that discussion. In fact, you seem to be way in over your head in most discussions. But you get frustrated when this is exposed, and you quickly devolve into personal attacks and misdirection.

25 posted on 03/19/2007 1:49:00 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
Here's the latest report from Netcraft, to once again show how incredibly dishonest you are.

Are you saying they just switched to Windows? Way back when you claimed they ran Linux (and when Netcraft showed only Linux), I looked at their site and noticed certain clicks went to ASP pages. Then I viewed the source on their pages, which showed they were running the RedDot CMS system, which only runs on Windows.

You were told this back then, before the hosting service likely changed their proxy servers to allow IIS to show through to Netcraft. But you still couldn't admit you were wrong, even though you were only relying on Netcraft.

When shown the truth, all you could do was go on personal attacks, as you just did.

26 posted on 03/19/2007 1:57:40 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Yay, you figured out to post links. Good for you. They prove nothing.

They perfectly prove you're once again lying, when you say I'm the one posting the personal attacks LOL. You talk in so many circles you can't even keep up with the obvious.

27 posted on 03/19/2007 2:14:25 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
when you say I'm the one posting the personal attacks

There's no evidence that he changed his position on the GPL3, so instead you go off claiming he honestly suggests to "whack" people and dominate the world. When faced with your lie, you went on a personal attack against him, as usual.

You do the same at Groklaw. When faced with court documents and transcripts you don't understand (can you say "Feist"?) and trouble your false perception of SCO as an honest company protecting its assets, you rant against the site itself. Sorry, but no matter how much of a leftist loon PJ is, the documents speak for themselves. And Groklaw is the single best source for them (far better than SCO's sad attempt).

You simply can't argue the facts because they're always against you.

28 posted on 03/19/2007 8:23:12 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
no matter how much of a leftist loon PJ is...

You'll always be there to support her. We know LOL, just like all the other leftist loons and foreigners you constantly defend.

29 posted on 03/20/2007 5:31:13 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
You'll always be there to support her.

You see, you go personal, while we argue the facts. That's why you always lose.

30 posted on 03/20/2007 5:46:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

That was a fact. You are obviously defending "leftist loons" again, and any attempt to deny it is more of your lies. Another fact. Thanks for making this so easy LOL.


31 posted on 03/20/2007 7:11:07 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
That was a fact.

What was a fact, your personal attack? Or are you talking about real facts, like Torvalds still rejects the current GPL3, or that SCO's case is falling apart and their claim of millions of lines of infringed code was a lie? Or that Planned Parenthood runs Windows for its web front end? Come on, bet back to debating facts if you dare.

As for any "defense," I may not agree with the philosophical approach to software of Stallman and PJ (and even you), but I have a problem with people spewing lies about others as you are wont to do.

32 posted on 03/20/2007 7:21:31 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: rzeznikj at stout

IB4GE!!!

ROFLMAO


33 posted on 03/20/2007 7:53:40 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

The fact you are defending "leftist loons" again isn't a personal attack, it's just a matter of fact. And it trumps any further whining coming from you too, especially the actual personal attacks you're attempting. Typical liberal slimeball tactic, foiled again.


34 posted on 03/20/2007 8:51:56 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
The fact you are defending "leftist loons" again isn't a personal attack,

Yes it is. You resort to it whenever you can't argue the facts of a thread. Pointing out a lie you made about someone isn't a defense of their philosophy, it's a correction of your lie.

I myself have stated that Groklaw is great if you only read the documents and avoid the editorials, so any attack you make on PJ's credibility is merely a distraction. You have never successfully attacked the credibility of the posted documents, so you go off on a sideline rant about the editor's beliefs.

But you still lose because the facts of the case are against you, as always. Your attempts to bring up leftist strawmen so you can knock them down are pathetic. Your attempts to libel Torvalds are even worse.

If you can't argue the facts of the thread then quit posting. As with last time, I have lost patience since it doesn't appear you'll slither away like you did the last two times you were proven wrong. I won't reply again unless you can actually argue the facts of the thread.

35 posted on 03/20/2007 9:04:22 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

More lies from the antiRepublican in defense of his "leftist loons" LOL. Here's the thread again (notice I'm the only one ever linking any facts again), which includes near the end someone else who attests Jokelaw is leftist drivel BS.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1801886/posts


36 posted on 03/20/2007 9:26:42 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; MikefromOhio

actually, i'm not the first one who brought that up...


37 posted on 03/20/2007 9:56:54 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout; N3WBI3; MikefromOhio; FLAMING DEATH; Petronski; antiRepublicrat; ...

Thread Jester Ping

A low-volume pinglist dedicated for all the thread jesters out there--you know who you are...8^)

FReepmail rzeznikj at stout or MikefromOhio to be added or struck from the list...

38 posted on 03/20/2007 10:00:31 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Golden Eagle
I wasn't going to reply, but this is just too classic.

More lies from the antiRepublican

Can you actually point to one on this thread, or you will you continue with unsubstantiated libel?

Here's the thread again (notice I'm the only one ever linking any facts again)

You're linking to the same thread I referenced. Yippie, you put in a link. You're still linking straight to a thread where you were caught completely ignorant of the facts in the case and copyright law in general.

hich includes near the end someone else who attests Jokelaw is leftist drivel BS.

If you mean the commentary can get very leftist, you are trying to create a conflict where none exists. Nobody here disputes that PJ is a leftist Stallman follower. You can put that one to rest. You only bring it up as a strawman.

However, you can't dispute the court filings and transcripts at Groklaw. Go ahead and try if you actually want to debate facts. Go to SCO's site and find some documents that refute the documents posted at Groklaw. But I warn you, some of those documents were copied from Groklaw.

39 posted on 03/20/2007 10:50:11 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Yippie, you put in a link.

Yep, so the unlucky who stumbled onto your endless lies and wasted bandwidth on this thread can finally see the truth you refused to link yourself. Jokelaw is run by a "leftist loon" you finally admitted yourself, I've shown several incorrect claims by them including describing how a simple search of the internet reveals more examples, plus freepers on the other thread agree with me the site is a bunch of BS. The fact you're still pulling your hair out trying to defend the "leftist loons" over there is quite entertaining however.

40 posted on 03/20/2007 11:56:59 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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