In case anyone else missed this story:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-03-08/news/tohono-o-odham-with-love/1
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Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys
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That's really interesting!
This is true. The hospital called me at 7am to let me know my mom had passed. I didn't tell the kids, but after I dropped them off at school, went straight over there, arriving around 8:30 am. They already had her in a body bag(how lovely), and I unzipped it to hug and give her a kiss. Her body temp was still rather warm.
Just mentioning this, because if Anna was tucked in with blankets, it could account for her body being decently warm. My mom's lips weren't blue, though. Mom was 82, and suffered from advanced Alzheimers and dementia. Anna suffered from Stern.
I am pretty sure a baby bottle has been used to hide drugs in. All you would need to do is find a liquid proof long cylinder that would fit into a baby bottle. Glue the cylinder to the inside bottom of the baby bottle. (long cylinder inside long baby bottle) Put your stash into the inner cylinder - screw the inside liquid proof cylinder lid on - fill baby bottle up with milk (thus hiding the inner liquid proof cylinder) - put the lid on the baby bottle. When you need your stash - just empty the milk and unscrew the inner cylinder lid. The inside cylinder could be as small as 5/8" or smaller in diameter.
Except who the new woman named Katherine is who was in the bedroom with ANS, on the computer, when ANS died. Any ideas who that is?
Katherine is Big Moe's wife. Now I'm reading that a nurse was on the computer. The conflicting stories get a little confusing, but that's what was said.
Big Moe's wife.
Amazing!
Big Moe's wife is a nurse - that's Tas, short for Tasma. Some people write it Taz, like Taz the Tasmanian Devil, lol.
OK - that's who was at the computer, just the one woman in the room then, thanks.
Taz (Tasma RN) is Moe's wife, she claims to be on the computer at the foot of the king sized bed. Blue tooth headpiece on head. (Made call to Moe later)
Birgette, King's wife was in the suite as well. She claims to be the one who spotted the body not looking right.
Kathrine is ??? Do you mean Kris the MD? She wasn't there she claims. I don't know. I wasn't there for sure! :-)
No, Spotted Owl said there was a lady named Katherine on the computer next to ANS as she lay dying or dead and I thought this was yet another new person added to the entourage.
The Hard Rock had said that ANS and "her husband" and 4 others (no children or babies) had checked in on Monday - and I couldn't figure out who the 4th person was:
ANS
HKS "her husband"
1. Moe (but he lives there in town, doesn't stay in the hotel until Wed night)
2. Taz (she also lives there in town and doesn't stay in the hotel until Wed night)
3. Khristine Eroshevich - came from CA to visit with ANS; left on Wed afternoon and went back to CA
4. ????
Then 2 more people came on Thursday by air:
1. King Eric Gibson - from The Bahamas - would captain the boat to sail it back to Nassau on the planned Thursday
2. Brigitte Neven - King Eric's companion, also from the Bahamas - would be sailing back to Nassau with the group
It just never was clear to me who the 4 people were who checked in the Hard Rock on Monday along with ANS and HKS.
Methinks that baby bottle could have had methadone in it. Who's got the baby bottle now? Hopefully the police, doing tests on it for what its contents may have been.
Also, if Anna gave Ford Shelley her password to use for the laptop computers, in case something happened to her, then I hope (or would assume) that Ford Shelley (and wife and Ben Thompon or others to confirm what he saw) read as much as he could and printed out copies of any incriminating information found on those computers before passing them onto the Seminole police force. Just in case the cops couldn't get probable cause for a search warrant to look at them, and so at least one person or more would know what was on those computers. If indeed Ford Shelley had the smarts to look on the computers himself, then he knows a lot more than just about anybody else about Anna's situation, both personal and financial, as I suspect a lot would be on the computers about both of these aspects of her life. Hope he looked before passing those computers on to the police.
He wanted to investigate ANS relationship with Stern ~ Daniel felt Stern was controlling ANS ~ Daniel felt like a loose cog in a wheel ~ Daniel didn't like Stern and was afraid of him ~ He wanted to hire an investigator because he felt helpless ~ He blamed Stern for pushing him away
Harding described Daniel as sober, shy and weak. He didn't take the case because Daniel never contacted him again.
Investigators from the Bahamas interviewed Harding after Daniel's death because they found his business card on Daniel's body. Harding stated that ANS death was too soon (following Daniel's) to be a coincidence. He would tear everything apart to find the truth.
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How pitiful! Thankfully, DL isn't old enough to understand her circumstances and suffer the hell this kid must have. She must be rescued soon.
Regardless, they are no benefit to an ordinary thief and when Howard did his walk through with ET, he scooted through the rest of the house, entered the bedroom and went right for the closet. But he did something else. He opened a photo album. On the right hand side of the righthand page was the photo of Gibson and Anna in bed.
By the way, I bet none of you ever received a copy of your child's birth certificate. BUT, you would need a certified copy if you intended to travel to another country.
I have mine but only because I traveled to Mexico many years ago. I have none of my children's. My insurance policies are copies but they also show the division of the death benefit.
Surely Anna had previous wills and her previous attoney(s) would still have copies.
I think Moe feels that guilt knowing that she had been very sick. Remember that he said (they said) he put her in the ice bath. His regret is likely that he listened to Howard rather than call 9-11. That would have at least upset his plans for the rest of the week.
Somewhere it was posted (i think it was an article) that her name was originally Hannah.
In case anyone else missed this story:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-03-08/news/tohono-o-odham-with-love/1
Harding described Daniel as sober, shy and weak. He didn't take the case because Daniel never contacted him again.
SHOCKING....Poor Daniel was described as SOBER....
If I were Virgie, I would have fought like hell, just like she did, for both my daughter and my tiny, new grandchild.
Someone tld me once: "We expect to see our parents die someday but we never expect the death of our child and certainly never expect to lose a grandchild".
Virgie's heart has a big void. Please don't forget about her. She aches every day and wishes she had done more sooner. She's powerless because she's not wealthy. Daniel and Anna belong HERE in the USA. I know it will come someday and it will give Virgie some peace.
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