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[Microsoft] Vista Activation Cracked by Brute Force
Slashdot ^ | 3/02/2007 | Zonk

Posted on 03/02/2007 7:31:22 AM PST by sionnsar

Bengt writes "The Inquirer has a story about a brute force Vista key activation crack. It's nothing fancy; it's described as a 'glorified guesser'. The danger of this approach is that sooner or later the key cracker will begin activating legitimate keys purchased by other consumers. From the article: 'The code is floating, the method is known, and there is nothing MS can do at this point other than suck it down and prepare for the problems this causes. To make matters worse, Microsoft will have to decide if it is worth it to allow people to take back legit keys that have been hijacked, or tell customers to go away, we have your money already, read your license agreement and get bent, we owe you nothing.'"

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
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To: TommyDale

They are not limitations of Vista. They are limitations of DRM. I now believe with the vast majority of uninformed people blaming Microsoft for the restrictions of DRM that Microsoft simply should've never supported playback of such content. Complying with AACS standards might turn out to be a nightmare.


21 posted on 03/02/2007 8:03:45 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: LibreOuMort

ping


22 posted on 03/02/2007 8:05:12 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Noumenon
Well, I guess that it's all fun and games until someone rips off YOUR intellectual property. It's nothing to celebrate, IMHO.

I didn't celebrate anything. I'm simply pointing out that putting your faith in anything as being 'uncrackable' makes some people eager to prove you wrong (especially Microsoft with it's long list of detractors), and sets you up for disappointment when they do.

23 posted on 03/02/2007 8:06:45 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: flintsilver7

The DRM isn't as restrictive nor as hard to break as everyone says that it is, it has already been broken. do some research.


24 posted on 03/02/2007 8:08:03 AM PST by Barrett 50BMG
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To: sigSEGV
I've had to jump through hoops to get my legitimately purchased XP Pro reactivated when I reinstall.

That depends on the circumstances of the reinstall.

I've found many Dell computers that used a CD key for the installation that is different from the key on the sticky label. That causes problems on reinstalls, but it is a Dell problem, not a Microsoft problem.

25 posted on 03/02/2007 8:08:03 AM PST by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: flintsilver7

So why doesn't Microsoft make their case to the general public? They do a really poor job of that. It should not be Microsoft's problem to enforce DRM, but they should at least explain their position to their customers.


26 posted on 03/02/2007 8:08:37 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: shorty_harris
A Linux distro called Xandros 4.0 used activation when issued. The first service pack was to get rid of activation. Seems the sheeple didn't like it.

BTW, Xandros is very good if you haven't tried it. I'm a windoze guy trying to ween off the tit. Linux is still Greek to me. Xandros has a feature to make it look and feel like Windows to lessen the learning curve.

27 posted on 03/02/2007 8:10:00 AM PST by chuckles
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To: atomicpossum
I didn't celebrate anything. I'm simply pointing out that putting your faith in anything as being 'uncrackable' makes some people eager to prove you wrong (especially Microsoft with it's long list of detractors), and sets you up for disappointment when they do.

you mean like loading keyloggers into Mac video card frame buffers? LOL

28 posted on 03/02/2007 8:11:21 AM PST by Barrett 50BMG
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To: TommyDale

Because fighting against a barrage of FUD - largely uninformed FUD - is difficult. I don't know that it's a big enough issue yet for them to address it because as far as I know Vista is the only operating system capable of even supporting Blu-Ray or HD-DVD playback. There are likely very few people who are attempting to use their PCs as such players.


29 posted on 03/02/2007 8:12:02 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: ShadowAce

ping


30 posted on 03/02/2007 8:13:18 AM PST by KoRn
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To: flintsilver7
People who steal software upgrade their hardware significantly are angered by it

Fixed it for you.

31 posted on 03/02/2007 8:14:45 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: TommyDale
It should not be Microsoft's problem to enforce DRM, but they should at least explain their position to their customers.

in order to view HD Content you must have HD compliant hardware, "HDCP" High Definition Copy Protection, this is the same no matter if you want to view it on a stand alone TV or if want to view it on a Computer. Regular DVD's DO NOT have this.

32 posted on 03/02/2007 8:15:54 AM PST by Barrett 50BMG
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To: sionnsar

You would think this would be easy to stop or slow down from the server side. If repeated activation attempts are made in a short time from the same remote address, just block the remote address for a duration.


33 posted on 03/02/2007 8:17:17 AM PST by KoRn
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To: flintsilver7
Because fighting against a barrage of FUD - largely uninformed FUD - is difficult. I don't know that it's a big enough issue yet for them to address it because as far as I know Vista is the only operating system capable of even supporting Blu-Ray or HD-DVD playback. There are likely very few people who are attempting to use their PCs as such players.

No doubt! this is insane! people complaining! VISTA Allows you watch Blu-ray and HD-DVD it sucks! LOL

34 posted on 03/02/2007 8:17:29 AM PST by Barrett 50BMG
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To: Barrett 50BMG
you mean like loading keyloggers into Mac video card frame buffers? LOL

Actually, I was thinking of the recent reports that someone had captured the decryption codes for HD-DVD and Blu-Ray disks by intercepting the memory dump information and then aborting it once the decryption codes were passed (aborting so it couldn't be purged).

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/02/13/bluray_and_hddvd_bro.html

35 posted on 03/02/2007 8:18:08 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: flintsilver7
I now believe with the vast majority of uninformed people blaming Microsoft for the restrictions of DRM that Microsoft simply should've never supported playback of such content.

Indeed. The RIAA cartel threatened to make their next generations of offerings incompatible with computer playback if Microsoft didn't comply. Given how much that would have affected the RIAA and how little that would have affected Microsoft, this was equivalent to caving in to the self-hostage-taking ploy from Blazing Saddles.

36 posted on 03/02/2007 8:18:34 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: steve-b

I've done that - upgraded my hardware significantly on multiple machines - and never had to reactivate. Would it irritate me? Probably. Do I care much about spending time on the phone to get my OS re-activated? Probably for a few minutes.

Having never been inconvenienced, I don't care about it, but I do understand why they take the measures they take.


37 posted on 03/02/2007 8:19:30 AM PST by flintsilver7
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To: flintsilver7
"That's completely incorrect. Legitimate users of Windows have to deal with activation for a minute or two and in the vast majority of cases they never see it again."

Until you replace your motherboard or get a new BIOS.

38 posted on 03/02/2007 8:19:49 AM PST by KoRn
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To: sionnsar

Which is why I'm boycotting Vista.


39 posted on 03/02/2007 8:21:08 AM PST by wastedyears ( Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: flintsilver7

It's my understanding that activation is tied to a BIOS checksum and your MAC address. If both of them are different your license has to be transferred.


40 posted on 03/02/2007 8:22:35 AM PST by KoRn
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