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Take Microsoft's Linux money, says Red Hat
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| 19th February 2007
| By Matthew Aslett
Posted on 02/19/2007 7:15:23 AM PST by N3WBI3
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:15:27 AM PST
by
N3WBI3
To: N3WBI3; ShadowAce; Tribune7; frogjerk; Salo; LTCJ; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; amigatec; Fractal Trader; ..
Im really glad to see that Novell and RedHat are taking different tracts rather than trying to mirror each others business. Each will find their own path and the better business model will succeed.
Were I RedHat I would not dismiss Oracle yet. While UL has been falling flat on its face Ellison is one stubborn guy with a pile of cash and while its plain stupid for him to try and kill the goose. Probably would have been better for them to partner with RedHat rather than have a tantrum over JBoss..
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:21:16 AM PST
by
N3WBI3
("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
To: N3WBI3
I think we're talking different markets here. Red Hat and Ubuntu are installed mostly by individual consumers. The Novell-Microsoft deal targets the business market.
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:22:14 AM PST
by
JCEccles
To: N3WBI3
Linux is the most expensive 'free' software you will ever use.
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:22:16 AM PST
by
Mr. K
(Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
To: Mr. K
Even at that, a smart implementation like SUSE is much less expensive than Microsoft Vista.
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:23:49 AM PST
by
JCEccles
To: Mr. K
Yes, since Solaris 10 for x86 and x64 is faster and better architected.
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:26:11 AM PST
by
ikka
To: N3WBI3
ALL YOUR DISTROS ARE BELONG TO US !!!
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:26:43 AM PST
by
Incorrigible
(If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
To: JCEccles
RedHat has not been a consumer based Linux for more than four years (Fedora took that Role). Redhat is for Business servers and sells far more to enterprises than Novell does. My last shop was, on the UNIX side, 99% RedHat Linux with only some AIX and Solaris floating around in niche roles.
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:27:16 AM PST
by
N3WBI3
("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
To: Mr. K
Depends on how you use it. Any configuration becomes expensive when you try to do enough with it. But Linux has a very low buy in cost for start up businesses and is very price / performance competitive for even very large enterprises.
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posted on
02/19/2007 7:30:23 AM PST
by
N3WBI3
("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
To: N3WBI3
To: ikka
->Solaris 10 for x86 and x64 is faster and better architected.
Solaris support costs significantly less as well.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/16/HNsunundercutsredhat_1.html?APPLICATIONS
Sun's Solaris annual support contracts range from $240 to $1,180 for one- or two-socket x86 servers, depending on whether the buyer chooses the "basic" or "premium" plan. Sun's basic plan costs about 40 percent less and the premium plan about 50 percent less than comparable Red Hat plans, said Sun spokesman Bob Wientzen.
Red Hat's Web site lists Red Hat Linux ES basic for $349 per year per system and Red Hat Linux AS premium for $2,499. A Red Hat spokesman did not return calls and an e-mail requesting comment, but after Oracle's move last fall, Red Hat chief executive officer Matthew Szulik said Red Hat would not lower its prices due to a competitor's price cuts.
To: Echo Talon
To: Golden Eagle
lol, did you read what happened to him with his apple monitor?
hilarious!
To: Golden Eagle
BTW, I have a blogspot blog and you don't have much control over what what "ads" are posted on your website(Ad-Sense)... (I removed my adds because I couldn't filter them correctly)
To: Golden Eagle
Hmm Where to start...
"Sun's Solaris annual support contracts range from $240 to $1,180 for one- or two-socket x86 servers"
Redhat Premium puts *no* restrictions on CPU's and Memory, if you want to talk about one or two CPU systems you'll have to talk about Enterprise Server not Advanced Server. RHEL ES cost $349 for basic which includes full web support (ie submit tickets to RedHat engineers with a two day response ns $849 for 5x12 four hour response. Why the author would compare apples and oranges (Enterprise solution from RedHat vs MidRange from sun) is curious.
Comparing Apples to Apples suns Premium support with unlimited sockets is 1980$ a year vs Redhat at 2400$ a year (Sun Comes in at about 20% cheaper).
Where Redhat wins out is long term. When you are involved at any kind of volume or for any period of time Redhat cuts their costs significantly and guarantees prices. If you're running more than 25 servers take 25% off of the cost, if your involved in a three year contract knock off another 20% and for the term of that contract RedHat *contractually* can not raise their prices so the 890 you're paying for ES now is guaranteed until 2010.
Finally lets talk about the lowest level of service. Redhats development entitlements which provide any release patch and upgrade support for 60$ per server per year. Far cheaper and more powerful than Suns lowest entry point.
You have been shown all of this before yet you continue to propagator a lie.
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posted on
02/19/2007 9:34:58 AM PST
by
N3WBI3
("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
To: N3WBI3
yet you continue to propagator a lie. LOL, you continue to have bad English. I simply posted a recent link from a respectable source, which concurs with my experience. You can post as much wishful BS as you want that Linux is better, but the fact you've admitted to recently taking a job at a Solaris shop yourself is hilarious.
To: Echo Talon
lol, did you read what happened to him with his apple monitor? He sounded pretty cheap considering he just took $300 million from Red Hat. If I was him I would have just given it away so I never had to look at it again and bought something bigger.
To: Golden Eagle
Wow, attacking my English how smart of you....
While that author may have been ignorant about the fact his numbers did not accurately compare the licenses you have been told otherwise.
"You can post as much wishful BS as you want that Linux is better, but the fact you've admitted to recently taking a job at a Solaris shop yourself is hilarious"
Funny, please find a post *anywhere* where I slam on technical merits solaris? I have questioned suns commitment to x86 (and historically they have given reasons to question that) but never how good solaris is.
I have said on this forum that I cut my UNIX teeth on Solaris and I would always love working with it. My last shop was Linux so thats what I used, This shop is Solaris / AIX so thats what Ill use, down the road I might end up at another Linux shop and *thats what Ill use*.
The opportunity to escape a degrading management environment (outside of IT) and to work within a hand full of miles (running distance come the summer) from my home was a Godsend and I would have come here as a Windows admin if need be.
I, unlike you, don't invest my self too much one way or the other with a particular tool. I use the best tool for the job. In my post above I said nothing about Linux being 'better' than Solaris just corrected massive errors by the author (which he may not have know) used in a downright deceptive post by you.
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posted on
02/19/2007 10:46:19 AM PST
by
N3WBI3
("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
To: Golden Eagle
$400 for a cord? sheesh...
To: Golden Eagle
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