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To: calcowgirl
I haven't read the whole thing, but I did read the agents' testimony as well as that of Ramos and Compean. It seems pretty clear why these guys got convicted. For starters, Ramos and Compean got skewered on cross. Their testimony is contradictory and it looks like they are lying. Ramos, in particular, did not testify well at all.

In addition, for the jury to believe Ramos and Compean, they have to believe that every other agent was lying.

48 posted on 02/14/2007 12:13:00 PM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt

With all of the immunity agreements and proffer letters, one wonders what kind of defense they could have launched. They seem to be working with 2 hands behind their back and a sock in their mouth.


57 posted on 02/14/2007 1:06:46 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ContemptofCourt

ComtemptofCourt,

It's interesting that I came to the exact opposite conclusion as you did about Ramos's testimony. I thought that Kanof appeared to be attempting to confuse the jury with ridiculous suggestions about how Border Patrol Agents work. She was critical of the pursuit and the fact that Ramos chose to engage Aldrete-Davila for safety reasons before going to Compean's aid. She even brought up "the children."

I haven't yet gotten into Compean's testimony, but I do not believe that conflicts in testimony about who was where and when are unreasonable given that this entire incident lasted mere minutes and the agents were focused on the perp instead of each other. In fact, it confirms to me that the agents didn't get together to make up a story to hide a bad shoot.


64 posted on 02/14/2007 3:40:17 PM PST by Sue Bob
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To: ContemptofCourt
Well, so far, at least three other agents have been fired for lying. That's a start. And I suspect more testimony will be called into question. For each side.

I think Ramos got "skewered" because he did not get a good prep from his lawyer. [She did not seem up to the task.] Compean just didn't seem to me to be very articulate.
65 posted on 02/14/2007 3:55:19 PM PST by FOXFANVOX (God Bless the Military!)
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