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Transcripts of Trial - Border Agents Compean and Ramos
DOJ - U.S. Attorney's Office (Johnny Sutton) ^ | February 13, 2007

Posted on 02/13/2007 6:40:43 PM PST by calcowgirl

The complete (I think) transcript was filed with the Court on Friday and entered in the Court record yesterday. The DOJ is hosting the transcripts on their website in a series of 18 PDF Files. They range in size from 5 pages to over 300 pages, covering pretrial matters, sentencing, as well as testimony.

The transcripts are linked at the site above, as well as most of the press releases issued by the U.S. Attorney office on this matter.

I am setting up this thread (in chat) as a place for us junkies can comment on the testimony and to post any revelations anyone might find. Have at it!!!!

VOLUME I: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%201.pdf

VOLUME II: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%202.pdf

VOLUME III: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%203.pdf

VOLUME IV: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%204.pdf

VOLUME V: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%205.pdf

VOLUME VI: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%206.pdf

VOLUME VII: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%207.pdf

VOLUME VIII: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%208.pdf

VOLUME IX: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%209.pdf

VOLUME X: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2010.pdf

VOLUME XI: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2011.pdf

VOLUME XII: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2012.pdf

VOLUME XIII: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2013.pdf

VOLUME XIV: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2014.pdf

VOLUME XV: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2015.pdf

VOLUME XVI: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2016.pdf

VOLUME XVII: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2017.pdf

VOLUME XVIII: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/Compean-Ramos/Volume%2018.pdf
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TOPICS: Reference; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderagents; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; ramos; texas
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To: 1rudeboy

I agree with you. I think it depends whose ox is being gored.


121 posted on 02/15/2007 12:18:17 PM PST by erton1
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To: erton1

Frankly, I think that they will need a pardon.


122 posted on 02/15/2007 1:19:30 PM PST by Sue Bob
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To: calcowgirl

I read this section the other night and is one reason my alarms have been going off all over the place over Rene Sanchez. Something is fishy.


123 posted on 02/15/2007 1:23:57 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Iwo Jima

Ramos has Tourettes Syndrome, nerves usually makes it more pronounced. Perhaps that had a certain amount of bearing on his ability to present himself in court.


124 posted on 02/15/2007 1:26:12 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: ContemptofCourt
Is it possible they could not properly defend them because so much of their defense could not be presented due to "other cases?"

The other thing that bothered, me in the transcripts, was the oral interviews were not audio or video taped.

They had the agent(s) write their reports and they made comments the reports differed from the oral interviews, yet we have to take his word for this. Wouldn't that be hearsay?

125 posted on 02/15/2007 1:34:35 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: calcowgirl

Except "our" Rene Sanchez was located in Tucson, with relatives in El Paso.


126 posted on 02/15/2007 1:36:27 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: calcowgirl

I guess I'm in the minority, but Chris Sanchez really puts a new spin on rush to judgement (IMO). He took three whole days to investigate and arrest Ramos/Compean and didn't even bother to check into Rene Sanchez and how he knew so much about the drug dealer.


127 posted on 02/15/2007 1:42:09 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Is it possible they could not properly defend them because so much of their defense could not be presented due to "other cases?"

This is a red herring. What was their defense, other than that they were doing their job? Their defense was that the perp pulled a gun on them.

The other thing that bothered, me in the transcripts, was the oral interviews were not audio or video taped.

They had the agent(s) write their reports and they made comments the reports differed from the oral interviews, yet we have to take his word for this. Wouldn't that be hearsay?

If objections were not made on the record regarding this evidence or testimony, then it doesn't matter if it is hearsay. It is not the court's job to object to evidence...it is counsel's job. What section of the transcript is this found in?

128 posted on 02/15/2007 1:42:51 PM PST by ContemptofCourt
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129 posted on 02/15/2007 2:27:16 PM PST by AndrewC (Duckpond, LLD, JSD (all honorary))
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To: ContemptofCourt

Exactly! I'm not a trained attorney, but I would have strenously objected that this was opinion or hearsay without any evidence to back up what "he" said they said in the oral interviews. I am shocked this is the governments habit, not to record oral interviews. For that reason alone those men should not have waived their rights and insisted on legal assistance.


130 posted on 02/15/2007 3:12:54 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FOXFANVOX
There are numerous instances in this case of distortion and lying. The DHS I/G has admitted that his deputies lied to Congress about this case. A Border Agent who is a buddy of the smuggler is assigned custody of the smuggler and the ballistic evidence. The smuggler under oath says his BP pal briefed him, aided him, talked to him about ways to get medical attention and money from the USA. The agent denies it. These are two of the critical players in this drama.

I noticed that you used the term, "buddy" and "pal" in describing the smuggler's relationship with the border agent. Were they in fact, buddies and pals? I haven't read nor heard that this is true. Also, are you suggesting that we should take the word of the smuggler over the word of this border patrol agent? I sure wouldn't do that. How ironic that the defenders of the border patrol agents in general and specifically, Ramos and Compean, have attempted for a long time now to discredit and insult the honor of another border patrol agent.

131 posted on 02/15/2007 4:27:59 PM PST by Chena
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I had seen the allegations that Rene Sanchez helped OAD find a lawyer, coaching his testimony, etc. But I'd never seen any mention of an indictment! That is the one that got me. IMO, but it would explain several of the sealed records and motions in limine. I still have a lot more reading to do before really concluding anything... other than lots of folks made lots of mistakes and there are lots of stinky fish.


132 posted on 02/15/2007 4:56:01 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I guess I'm in the minority, but Chris Sanchez really puts a new spin on rush to judgement (IMO).

I'm with you on that one. I don't know that the majority disagrees, it just doesn't do anything to help win an appeal.

133 posted on 02/15/2007 5:06:10 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Chena

Read up. It appears that border patrol Agent you are supporting was indicted.


134 posted on 02/15/2007 5:07:26 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Chena

Then you need to start doing a lot of reading. They were childhood friends... the drugies mother called Rene Sanchez' MIL about the shooting. Rene Sanchez helped this criminal hire and attorney and advised him about suing the US Government, which he is doing for $5 million dollars. Aactually, don't have to take our word for how tight those two are, it's in the transcripts.


135 posted on 02/15/2007 5:16:15 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Chena

appologize for typo's I didn't run it through before hitting send.


136 posted on 02/15/2007 5:17:21 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for that info, calcowgirl.


137 posted on 02/15/2007 6:17:40 PM PST by Chena
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I guess I do have a lot of reading to do. LOL I'm so thankful that FR has resident attorneys on hand to help us wade through it all. I had heard that Sanchez had known Davilia when they were kids but that wasn't at the time, in and of itself, all that important.


138 posted on 02/15/2007 6:25:20 PM PST by Chena
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Sue Bob
I guess that statement out of Sutton's office, that OAD could still be prosecuted if he just had the evidence, isn't exactly true (at least, not if he wants to hold to his immunity agreement).
Volume 6, p.300-301
Chris Sanchez - Cross by Stillinger

14 Q. Okay. Now, would you agree with me, upon reviewing your
15 memo, that you did, in fact, tell him that he wasn't going to
16 be prosecuted at all for the criminal offense that he made --
17 for a criminal offense he may have committed that day?

18 A. Yes, ma'am.

19 Q. Okay. And that is a bigger immunity, a broader immunity,
20 than what's in that written document, Defendant's Exhibit
21 Number 2, correct?

22 A. I believe so.

23 Q. Okay. But I think you said that you told him that, because
24 that's what the Assistant U.S. Attorney instructed you to tell
25 him, correct?

1  A. Yes, ma'am.

2  Q. Okay. So you have some sort of, I guess oral agreement,
3  that he's not going to be prosecuted for whatever criminal
4  offense he may have committed on February 17, 2005, correct?

5  A. Yes, ma'am.

6  Q. And Mr. Aldrete-Davila would not speak to you until he had
7  that promise from you, correct?

8  A. That's correct.

139 posted on 02/15/2007 6:26:52 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Not video taping or audio taping an interview has been the policy of most law enforcement agencies . Unfortunately the courts have upheld this practice and the legislatures have been slow to act. This is now beginning to change. Maybe this case will help the criminal defense bar in their efforts to effect the change you desire. I think this would be an important step to determine if a statement was coerced or not.
140 posted on 02/15/2007 7:39:43 PM PST by erton1
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