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To: CharlesWayneCT; Sue Bob
The report then says that in this initial interview, Compean claimed he thought Davila had a gun, but that, quoting from the report: even though Compean later recanted his original statement by stating he was "never really certain" that Aldrete-Davila had a gun.

This is the kind of garbage that makes OIG and the AUSA lose total credibility with me. He did not "recant." He said "it looked like a gun. This is when I started shooting." The fact he said he wasn't certain (i.e. positive) is an honest statement, but it does not change his belief that "it looked like a gun" and that is why he reacted as he did. The word "recant" was added in by our famous DHS-OIG liars as CYA fodder. It is disgusting to see them do this, just like Debra Kanof reiterating her garbage about an unarmed fleeing Mexican who only wanted to surrender and/or only wanted to go home.

55 posted on 02/12/2007 8:26:20 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

In his original statement, he said he thought it was a gun; That "thought" isn't a profession of doubt, but rather a profession of his inability to provide evidence. "I thought I saw a gun" only covers you for shooting at an unarmed man if you are certain that you thought you saw a gun.

So later saying that you were never certain there was a gun means you were NEVER certain you were in danger, and in the absense of clear indication of danger, you aren't supposed to shoot. YOu don't get to shoot people because you think they might be threatening you, you have to have a reasonable certainty that you are in danger.

Coupled with the absense of a single person at the scene who heard the two ever say anything about there being a weapon in the hands of a suspect that was on the loose, it is rational to believe that "I thought he had a gun" was the statement of a man trying to justify why he took shots at a fleeing man, and not a statement of a certainty of fear of danger.

And since Compean says that he no longer felt in any danger when Ramos showed up and shot the guy, it's bad for Ramos as well to claim he saw a gun and felt threatened. So much so that Ramos testified that Compean was laying on the ground, when Compean claimed first that he was standing, and later that he was kneeling, but NEVER that he was laying down.


80 posted on 02/12/2007 9:51:36 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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