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BREAKING NEWS: DHS Inspectors Admittedly LIED to Congress About Border Patrol Case
Euphoric Reality ^ | 020707 | Redhead Infidel

Posted on 02/07/2007 6:28:28 AM PST by American Cabalist

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To: Mr. Mojo

I agree.


21 posted on 02/07/2007 9:29:48 AM PST by Dante3
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To: msnimje
Please, THINK ABOUT IT.

Indeed, based on FACTS it is apparent that the laws of the United States are being selectively applied.

When foreign invaders unlawfully gain entrance to our country, this administration's justice department more often than not simply looks the other way.

Yet, when a PROTECTOR of our border fails to follow procedure, he gets the book thrown at him.

The facts are clear there is a double standard in place that favors foreign invaders over US citizens.

OUTRAGOUS
22 posted on 02/07/2007 9:45:41 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: American Cabalist

The FReepers who sided with the 2-time, caught-red-handed drug runner, and view his coerced testimony as gospel will be along soon to debunk this new info.


23 posted on 02/07/2007 9:50:54 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Dante3
This case has nearly driven me over to the dark side.

My only hope is this is a huge plan to bust up BP corruption in a roundabout way that is indecipherable to we ulcerated peoples.

Why is Tony Snow pleading? Can't he just tell us what's in the transcript? He's a SPOKEsman, right? So, SPEAK, Tony!

24 posted on 02/07/2007 9:52:58 AM PST by txhurl
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To: randog
If the lies to Congress were under oath, maybe we could give Patrick Fitzgerald something useful to do.

In the meantime, resignation of anyone in the DOJ who's implicated in covering up wrongdoing is a good first step.

25 posted on 02/07/2007 9:54:30 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: subterfuge; msnimje

Yep. I only took 8 posts for someone to post a refutation that ignores the FACTS of this article as well as his OWN CALL TO THINK ABOUT THEM.

What is so hard to understand about people lying to get a conviction?


26 posted on 02/07/2007 9:59:34 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: subterfuge

Because no ever lies in the court system. /S




27 posted on 02/07/2007 10:32:39 AM PST by art_rocks
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To: American Cabalist
I've updated my post with the audio of Congressman John Culberson's revelation this morning of the DHS cover-up. (See Update 3 in the original post.) Listen to it first-hand.
28 posted on 02/07/2007 10:55:22 AM PST by American Cabalist (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It)
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To: Dante3
Dante! That must be it..? Snow *knows* the transcript is unavailable, and it trying to draw our attention to that (unbelievable) fact?

How does one ping L. Ingraham......

29 posted on 02/07/2007 10:58:17 AM PST by txhurl
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To: American Cabalist

What does the testimony to congress have to do with the trial? Was that info entered as evidence?


30 posted on 02/07/2007 11:11:12 AM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

Bob, the prosecution built it's case around the LIE that these two BP agents were rogue cops and deliberately and willfully broke the law in the pursuit of an illegal alien. DHS was the investigating authority for this entire case, and their findings were used against the BP agents in court - as was their testimony. Conversely, testimony was NOT ALLLOWED that would expose the "illegal alien" as a criminal drug smuggler. Nor was testimony allowed that showed the BP agents as stellar cops (previous citations and awards and such)

As well - and I can't believe I have to point this out to you - the fact that DHS lied to Congress indicates a large-scale cover-up. DHS did not want the Congressmen to go any further in their questioning of the case. In fact, many Congressmen and Senators did just that - they stopped looking into it. That was exactly the purpose of the LIES.


31 posted on 02/07/2007 11:20:37 AM PST by American Cabalist (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It)
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To: xcamel
With over 500 replies? you're kidding yourself...

At least 400 of those replies came in because the article was initially posted to 'news'. Then suddenly it got changed to general/chat and the topic changed to 'conspiracy'. Notice that this article itself has now been moved to general/chat.

32 posted on 02/07/2007 11:21:04 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: John Jorsett; All

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,248705,00.html


33 posted on 02/07/2007 11:21:52 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: John Jorsett

You're right. Almost a month ago Euphoric Reality broke the news that the AZ National Guard had encountered a fully armed paramilitary force and FR moved it from News to Conspiracy. Then three weeks later, the MSM finally picks it up (without attribution, of course) and it was reposted everywhere as Breaking News. Unfortunately, FR has always tried to bury stuff like that - erasing entire threads and moving border news into the back forty. Maybe I'll get banned now for saying so. Wouldn't that be ironic?


34 posted on 02/07/2007 11:43:00 AM PST by American Cabalist (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It)
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To: Brad's Gramma
excerpt

Many lawmakers have been calling for Bush to grant the pardon, which would free the two former agents from prison.

"There's a procedure in place and what I told members of Congress who have written me or called, is 'just look at the case. Look at the facts in the case,'" Bush told FOX News' Neil Cavuto. "People need to understand why these folks were sent to trial and why a jury of their peers convicted them."

Then just tell us, W!

35 posted on 02/07/2007 11:50:16 AM PST by txhurl
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To: American Cabalist
More lies from US Attorney John Sutton:
"These guys did very serious crimes and once anybody who knows all the facts of this case — the fact that they shot at an unarmed guy 15 times, lied about it, covered it up, destroyed the evidence ... it's hard for me to imagine a prosecutor would look the other way," he said.

1. It has not been proven that the drug smuggler was unarmed. Sutton has been unable to prove it, yet he states it like it's a fact.

2. Compean and Ramos DID NOT LIE about shooting the drug smuggler. They didn't know that they had until almost a month later!

3. The DID NOT try to "cover it up". They verbally reported to their superiors that they fired their weapons.

4. They DID NOT destroy evidence. Sutton has been harping on this because he claims that the site of the shooting was a "crime scene" and that the BP agents knowingly altered the scene of the crime by picking up their shell casings. That is FALSE. The agents, including the agents that were with them at the time of the shooting, did NOT designate the area a crime scene, since they did NOT know that the drug smuggler had been shot.

JOHNNY SUTTON IS A BALD-FACED LIAR.

36 posted on 02/07/2007 11:59:22 AM PST by American Cabalist (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It)
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To: American Cabalist

Ig the prosecutor told this to the jury, wouldn't he have to back that up with some evidence? If so, what was revealed during the trial?

You seem like you've been keeping a close eye on this event, so I assume you know what went on during the trial.


37 posted on 02/07/2007 1:27:50 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

Yes, you would think so. But of course, DHS had nothing to submit. Nonetheless, that has not stopped Sutton from framing these guys as bad cops.

Court transcripts have not been completed, so no one - including the White House - knows what went on at that trial. It's my hunch that the reason they have not been transcribed is because they will not stand up to scrutiny. The prosecution is probably hoping to god that the furor dies down and people lose interest so they can quietly complete and file the transcripts.


38 posted on 02/07/2007 2:17:04 PM PST by American Cabalist (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It)
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To: msnimje
If you go thru life ignoring your feelings, you will be like Rush, with 1/2 your brain tied behind your back. I am a retired pilot, a highly technical field, but I often found that feelings were as helpful as thinking. Sometimes more so. A student of intuition knows that while the intuitive can be wrong more often, it is also capable of arriving at conclusions in complex situations where rational thinking fails.

I have found my best decisions in life are made when my feelings and my thinking reach the same conclusion. And I can tell you that in this case my feelings alerted me to something not being right. My subsequent research proved to my thinking brain that there were many prosecutorial excesses in this trial. That Homeland Security felt compelled to lie to lend credibility to this case should be a marker to you that something is amiss.
39 posted on 02/07/2007 7:29:54 PM PST by FOXFANVOX (God Bless the Military!)
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To: randog
It is certainly a crime to testify falsely under oath. However, it seems that until now the DHS officials involved were clever enough to avoid testifying - and the congressmen were foolish enough to let them.

This still does not explain how a jury was persuaded, incredibly, to convict two federal officers on the word of a drug smuggler. I can only suppose that Judge Cardone (is that the name?) manipulated the jury.

Another point occurs to me. I know U.S. attorney Sutton gave immunity to the supposed victim. Did he also give immunity to the "whistle blowing" BP officer who helped him? I call attention to Title 18, section 3 of the United States Code:

Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact. Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years.

40 posted on 02/07/2007 11:04:59 PM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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