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Imprisoned border agent did report shooting
WorldNetDailyc.om ^ | February 7, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 02/07/2007 2:07:58 AM PST by Man50D

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To: philman_36

"As far as WND can determine, no written reports were filed by any of the Border Patrol agents or supervisors on the field."

Ok. So does anyone know if there were any reports?


41 posted on 02/07/2007 3:57:08 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Was there never a report filed?
Read the article a little closer...and look at my relpy above again.
The issue about filing a written report, according to Compean's testimony, turned on his willingness not to mention the assault. The decision not to file a written report did not turn on wanting to hide the fact that shooting had taken place.
42 posted on 02/07/2007 3:57:57 AM PST by philman_36
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

"Ok. So does anyone know if there were any reports? "

Correction: written reports.


43 posted on 02/07/2007 4:03:20 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: driftdiver
My guess is he was waiting for the 800 lbs of pot this guy was bringing in and was very disappointed when it didnt arrive.

To quote Judge Judy: "Follow the money."

Drug money, like Opec Oil money, gets spread around and ends up in the the pockets or in the off-shore accounts of people in high places.

Something smells about this whole incident and the reports that the drug dealer was given immunity twice.

Something smells that the incident came to light only through the drug dealer's mother-in-law telling 'a friend' who was a border agent in Arizona.

Something smells that the government would spend so much time and effort and money and personnel to prosecute this case. The compilation of cost would have been more effectively used to fight the drug trade.
44 posted on 02/07/2007 4:04:47 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
According to the article...No, there were no written reports filed!
45 posted on 02/07/2007 4:06:51 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36

"The decision not to file a written report"

Thank you for that post.

I am just trying to wade through all this.

Would the (Gov) position be that not filing the written was
a in and of itself "false"? Or was there a written we don't know about?

Or the prosecutor was lying?


46 posted on 02/07/2007 4:08:17 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: TomGuy

47 posted on 02/07/2007 4:08:47 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
This was an attempt by the Bush administration to root out more entrenched liberal beaurocratic lifers in the government with the full intention of regaing the support of the conservative base on the illegal immigration issue and he allowed it to go on because he intended to pardon both men eventually.

Right. And Bush nominated Miers for the Supreme Court just to enrage the base and make them support his true intended candidate because it was planned all along that Miers would decline the nomination. [Uh huh, yeh, right.]

And there are two special one-time-one, act now, deals that you can make: you can buy the Brooklyn Bridge or buy 2000 acres of ocean front property in Wyoming if you act now.
48 posted on 02/07/2007 4:10:25 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: philman_36

I am seeing your point now btw...but you have to admit that the actual transcript was vague.

“Nothing”,”brought up” "seemed” “we just didn't bring it up”, “the way” “wanted”


49 posted on 02/07/2007 4:11:37 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Would the (Gov) position be that not filing the written was
a in and of itself "false"? Or was there a written we don't know about?

I have no idea.
Or the prosecutor was lying?
Ibid.
50 posted on 02/07/2007 4:16:24 AM PST by philman_36
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To: philman_36
"I would be more apt to believe it was all done in an attempt to damage/discredit the administration."

In which case the men will probably die in prison. We all know how the left loves to count bodies (unless it's in the inner cities). The more the merrier.

51 posted on 02/07/2007 4:18:57 AM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: philman_36
The decision not to file a written report did not turn on wanting to hide the fact that shooting had taken place.

Per reports a couple of weeks ago, the ballistics evidence was so screwed up that the bullet 'recovered' from the drug dealer's butt could not be matched because it was too damaged.

More smell: Sutton had the ballistics done by the state agency in El Paso, rather than at the FBI. This raises question the question as to why Sutton would change procedure. Typically, for Federal prosecutions, the investigations and tests are done by Federal agencies, not state agencies.


Ballistics data don't support charge against border agents
  Posted by Man50D
On News/Activism 01/29/2007 4:14:21 AM CST · 71 replies · 1,320+ views


WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 28, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi
Ballistics reports, used in the trial of Ignacio "Nacho" Ramos, one of two Border Patrol agents convicted of shooting fleeing drug dealer Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, do not support the prosecution's claim the bullet was fired from Ramos' gun, according to documents provided to WND from Andy Ramirez, Chairman of the Friends of the Border Patrol. Despite the conclusion of a laboratory criminalist that he could not conclusively link the bullet removed from Aldrete-Davila with Ramos' service weapon, a Department of Homeland Security agent swore, in an affidavit of complaint filed against Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, that Aldrete-Davila was hit by...

52 posted on 02/07/2007 4:18:59 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

I guess my joke didn't go over too well. I did say..."I can speculate..."


53 posted on 02/07/2007 4:19:19 AM PST by philman_36
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Try this on for size ... the difference between a righteous shoot and attempted murder, etc., is intent. The alleged bad intent of these agents was thought to be in a cover up and that's how the US Attorney played it. But if there WAS NO COVER UP, was there bad intent??? This wasn't two guys who were interrupted in a shoot-shovel-shutup operation; it sounds like the whole damn station was there, supervisors and all.

Is this is the "oh, by the way, your client's DNA was not found on or in the person of the complainant?" Don't know. But the doubt meter sure pegged on high. Why pardon if you can obtain a "not guilty?"

54 posted on 02/07/2007 4:20:22 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: Man50D

Alberto Gonzales must resign, or be impeached--NOW.


55 posted on 02/07/2007 4:25:23 AM PST by montag813
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To: NonValueAdded

"the difference between a righteous shoot and attempted murder, etc., is intent."

In this case was the "cover up" the only bad intent that Sutton put forth?

I am asking that honestly, I don't know the answer.


56 posted on 02/07/2007 4:29:05 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: TomGuy

I saw that report too, only he wasn't a border agent he was a Deputy Sheriff. Followed all protocol, other LEO's arrived at the scene as well as the Texas Rangers, once the Feds showed up, he was charged and was convicted and is facing 10 yrs.

I am not a conspiracy, tin foil hat person but I'm not stupid either. Something is going on right in front of our faces regarding Mexico and illegals. Quite frankly it is downright scary.


57 posted on 02/07/2007 4:29:13 AM PST by panthermom (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: TomGuy

Seems like a crossing butt shot would be a through and through and not be recoverable/found. It was moving at a pretty slow velocity to lodge in his butt cheeks.


58 posted on 02/07/2007 4:34:03 AM PST by philman_36
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bookmark for later


59 posted on 02/07/2007 4:35:47 AM PST by pdunkin
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To: TomGuy

Here is a link to the video, about the deputy sheriff.

http://www.foxnews.com/foxfriends/index.html#


60 posted on 02/07/2007 4:35:54 AM PST by panthermom (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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