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To: editor-surveyor

You honestly believe that if a federal agent discharges his firearm while on duty at a suspect, that there is no requirement for him to submit anything in writing???? I know there are plenty of LEOs on FR, can anyone of you confirm that in your jurisdiction, officers are allowed to discharge their firearms while on duty, not at the shooting range, and not have to make a report of the incident????? If true, it seems a little fast and loose for me.


441 posted on 02/07/2007 10:37:33 AM PST by rednesss
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To: rednesss

There has been adequate corroberation of the fact that written reports are discouraged for the border patrol agents.


443 posted on 02/07/2007 10:50:20 AM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: rednesss; editor-surveyor
Actually, that is literally correct. At first I was surprised as well, but it turns out it makes sense. The agents are not to file a written report. Because it's a shooting, the agents are REQUIRED to brief a supervisor, and the SUPERVISOR is required to write the report. That makes sure the report is accurate, and isn't written to cover up what happened.

The agents circumvented this by filing their own reports without mentioning the shooting, and not verbally telling the supervisor about the shooting.

Their defense is that they figured the supervisor already knew. I have no idea what there defense is for filing a report when they were required to brief the supervisor and have HIM file the report.

The pro-BP people claimed that this rule exonerated the agents for "not filing a report mentioning the shooting". My guess is they will now argue there was no report filed at all.

450 posted on 02/07/2007 11:17:46 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rednesss
You honestly believe that if a federal agent discharges his firearm while on duty at a suspect, that there is no requirement for him to submit anything in writing????

That apparently not only is SOP for the BP, the field agents are expressly ordered not to file written reports. They are required to verbally report to their supervisors, and the supervisors are to file written reports. I believe Sara Carter reported this.

497 posted on 02/07/2007 2:14:43 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: rednesss

>>You honestly believe that if a federal agent discharges his firearm while on duty at a suspect, that there is no requirement for him to submit anything in writing????

Yep. Read the Firearms Policy yourself. It's all there.

http://www.nbpc.net/Miscellaneous/firearms.pdf


508 posted on 02/07/2007 4:46:23 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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