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Government admits lying about jailed border agents (DHS fesses up - Rep. Poe ticked!)
World Net Daily ^ | February 6, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 02/06/2007 6:18:29 PM PST by calcowgirl

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To: msnimje

"You could also read this release from the Justice Department"

I give about as much credence to the Injustice Dept. as to the MSM these days. They're the gang who let Sandy Burglar walk with a deal so lax even the judge was appalled.


341 posted on 02/06/2007 9:44:33 PM PST by hellbender
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To: msnimje

Yep. Aztlan.net, that reliable source, which also runs stories like this one:

"Berg decapitation video was filmed inside the Abu Ghraib prison"

A really great source to be citing on a conservative site/s


342 posted on 02/06/2007 9:47:37 PM PST by hellbender
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To: hellbender
I pretty much agree with you. I hear one thing then another so I really don't trust everything I have heard.....What I do believe is that something stinks when you take a drug dealer's word over 2 men that are guarding our borders. What is worse is that they went and found this guy and now he is suing the government. (our tax money) Maybe they didn't follow the rules but why they would get such a long sentence is hard for me to understand. IMO they should have just fired them if they were actually found guilty of not filing reports or whatever. I think this whole thing stinks. I just hope the truth comes out and soon. I hope these 2 men are in protected areas and that their families are alright. ~~P~~
343 posted on 02/06/2007 9:49:03 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: hellbender

And WND is the gold standard?????


344 posted on 02/06/2007 9:49:49 PM PST by rednesss
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To: msnimje

I just can't believe you would actually cite Aztlan.net for "true" info about Ramos. Here are just a few of their lead stories today:

The positive contributions of undocumented immigrants
Taxing Undocumented Immigrants: Separate, Unequal and Without Representation
by
Professor Francine J. Lipman
School of Law
Chapman University


"War Crimes of Unspeakable Horror"

Abu Ghraib Revisited
by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan



Karina Garcia Speaks
Speech delivered at the
Party for Socialism and Liberation conference
in Los Angeles on November 11, 2006.


345 posted on 02/06/2007 9:52:18 PM PST by hellbender
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To: pandoraou812

Don't forget the other BP agents who testified and then there's the testimony of Ramos and Compean themselves. I guess you can only trust the word of some BP agents but must disbelieve the testimony of other BP agents. You know the one's not on trial with everything to lose.


346 posted on 02/06/2007 9:53:01 PM PST by rednesss
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To: rednesss

At least it's not a front for enemies of this country.

You just don't give up, do you? Your side is caught citing a racist, socialist Mexican front site as "evidence" of how evil Ramos is, and you won't admit a thing.


347 posted on 02/06/2007 9:54:12 PM PST by hellbender
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To: rednesss

The other BP agents were given immunity, even though they were guilty of violations of procedure themselves. Prosecutors can twist little people like them with great ease. The real question is: Why did the govt. want to crush a couple of BP agents? How does a DHS agent get so chummy with a member of the drug cartel, and no one looks into his motives and background? Any ordinary cop who consorts with known crime figures would be in trouble, unless maybe the crooks are paid informants.


348 posted on 02/06/2007 9:57:38 PM PST by hellbender
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To: hellbender

That's what it is. The Aztlan revolutionaries want reconquista of the land stolen from Mexico by the United States.

At least that dude revealed where he's coming from.


349 posted on 02/06/2007 9:59:14 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: rednesss

If you are reading correctly I am saying I don't know what to think. I just think the case stinks. I would hope thought that these men are protected as are sex offenders...You still have not given me my answer to that ....I think many government workers are crooks. But I wonder why the long sentence? You see so many people do far worse and go to jail for far less time. I am following it on the news and here but I tend not to trust the news media. ~~P~~


350 posted on 02/06/2007 10:01:21 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: pandoraou812

Yes, and it's really strange to find people on a conservative forum aggressively defending whatever our increasingly corrupt Federal govt. says. The government is the biggest racket on the planet, the only one which dwarfs drugs, gun-running, prostitution, and all the rest. They are also the most powerful and dangerous.

But redsss wants us to think World Net Daily is the real threat.


351 posted on 02/06/2007 10:01:25 PM PST by hellbender
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To: msnimje; rednesss

Let's look at another news nugget published by your source:

"Los Angeles, Alta Califronia - October 28, 2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan has recently reported on our doubts that many of the terrorist attacks in the U.S. and around the world are the work of Islamic fundamentalists, Muslims or Arabs. There is ample evidence that these terrorist attacks are actually being committed by certain rogue elements of the U.S. and Israeli governments. In order to justify our doubts, we are making available to our readership below, the damning and shocking top secret "Northwoods Project" document that has been declassified and obtained through the Freedom of Information Act...."

http://www.aztlan.net/northwoods.htm


352 posted on 02/06/2007 10:05:20 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: hellbender

I think theres so much more to this....The sentence is too long and I really don't see the big deal. I think anyone coming over our border needs to be shot anyway if they are caught with drugs or smuggling people. If our border was guarded as it well should be ...then this may not have happened. I guess somebody important didn't get their 700 hundred pounds of pot. ~~P~~


353 posted on 02/06/2007 10:05:41 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: pandoraou812

I too wish them no harm and hope that they are not attacked. But my point was and is, we don't know if such protections only consisted of going into solitary segregated housing, i.e. 23 hr a day lock down, and he chose not to go that route. I'd like to know before I start calling the CO staff and the warden conspirators in a murder plot. The long sentence was mandatory and is part of the law of unintended consequences but people are always yelling for more prison time and stiffer sentences and complaining about judges giving lax sentences so we need more mandatory sentencing, blah blah blah. You can always count on the government to use a law intended for one purpose, and to use it for something entirely different. RICO statutes come to mind. Do a google on Michael Zinn and see what his experience with the federal government was like. Ask Dog the Bounty Hunter for that matter.


354 posted on 02/06/2007 10:15:49 PM PST by rednesss
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To: Pelham

Don't try and attribute that site to me. Talk about shady tactics, shame on you.


355 posted on 02/06/2007 10:17:32 PM PST by rednesss
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To: Pelham

"Northwood Project?"

This site is as phony as Hollywood. They are claiming General Lyman Lemnitzer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, is a Zionist and a Jewish operative for Israel.

Pelham, are you a DU plant, a Muzzie, or a newly arrived "citizen" of southern California?


356 posted on 02/06/2007 10:22:52 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten these.)
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To: rednesss
Dog the Bounty Hunter .....That was a silly case and I don't know how much I buy of it anymore. I think that was a joke in many ways. You know as I know that there was no need to break down his door etc. I signed the petition and the case p!st me off. Why isn't that still in the news 24/& or did I miss something?..... But I can not compare the two cases. I know cops lie for cops and the whole system seems to be morally corrupt somewhere down the line in all parts of this government. I wish it wasn't so but the more I read the more I see corruption. I live in NJ where its so corrupt its not unusual to read the newspaper each day and see a mayor or someone taking bribes. ..... I really think there is more to this case and I hope it comes to light soon. ~~P~~
357 posted on 02/06/2007 10:24:35 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Pelham

Pelham, my apologies. Should have directed my remarks to msnimje and redness.


358 posted on 02/06/2007 10:26:18 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten these.)
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To: rednesss

"there are far more egregious cases of so-called injustice to get upset about anyways."



Really? OK, name them--and state what you are doing to right those injustices.


359 posted on 02/06/2007 10:29:18 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: rednesss
Mostly I'm tired of seeing the same dang threads on this matter over and over and over again

We meet again, huh redness?

What does it matter if YOU'RE tired of certain threads? Like anyone here, you are free to come & go from thread to thread. If you're so uninterested, please visit another one! Think of the joy you'll feel! Yea!

360 posted on 02/06/2007 10:31:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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