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If someone could enlighten me on this, I would be grateful. What I do get is that the Jacobites were trying to restore the rather absolutist Stuart monarchy. That would seem to me to be a bad thing, and I think that is the perspective of Whig historians (Correct?). They were trying to reverse, as it were, the Glorious Revolution. (Correct?)

But...unless I have my facts mixed up...weren't the Jacobites also supported by some Scottish clans? If that is the case, I don't understand why. Aren't the clans the freedom-loving ancestors of the American revolution? What am I missing here?

Or is it the case that the Jacobites, who were plotting with the French (correct?), were just joined by everyone who had a beef with the English, hence some of the Highlanders support for them?

If someone could enlighten me and perhaps others and explain the major players in this episode, I would be grateful.

1 posted on 02/06/2007 12:52:23 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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2 posted on 02/06/2007 12:57:10 PM PST by GoforBroke
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3 posted on 02/06/2007 12:57:15 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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6 posted on 02/06/2007 9:44:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, February 3, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ConservativeDude
were just joined by everyone who had a beef with the English

It would be a grave mistake to view the Jacobite conflict as simply Scots v English. It was rather more complex than that!

7 posted on 02/07/2007 12:07:30 AM PST by Da_Shrimp
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The Stewarts (Stuarts) were also the kings of Scotland. It was an emotional issue, not a rational one. Scotland wanted their own king, not a Dutchman, and not the English Parliament where they were greatly outvoted.
In the process, they managed to miss the fact "Bonnie Prince Charlie" was probably more French than Scottish in upbringing and outlook...


12 posted on 02/07/2007 10:07:00 AM PST by Little Ray
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The 1715 and 1745 uprisings were indeed to put the dictatorial Stuarts back on the throne,due to romantic nonsense notions of a 'free and liberal' restored Stuart-Scottish monarchy that would be a panacea for all Scotland's ills(the fact that the British-born Stuarts were exiled due to their dictatorial ways was and has been forgotten and whitewashed....).

This was NOT Scotland vs England,but Catholic pro-Stuart highlanders vs the Govt and the rest,both Protestant and Catholic(some Catholic highlanders even supported the Govt).

Unfortunately,in modern times,the romanticised tosh that passes for history has rendered it a Scots vs English battle(more Scots fought at Culloden AGAINST Charlie!) and that the Stuarts were just poor Scots kings conspired against by the big bad English and their Scots lackeys.....


13 posted on 02/09/2007 8:14:00 AM PST by the scotsman
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