How will Apple react to Vista?

TG Daily ^ | February 2, 2007 | Rob Enderle

[Swordmaker]

"It's simply not true, and you make yourself a bigger fool every time you spout off about it."

Okay, now I understand the phrase "spout off" because I have seen you in action.

Uh, guys? I think that ByDesign has mis-addressed his overall comment... I think he was reading KellyAdmirer's comments and mis-connected them to Petronski...

[Petronski]

I hope so.


In either event, that post DOES constitute "spouting off."

[Petronski]

Of course, I fell asleep half an hour ago. ;o)



Be well, SM.

[avenir]

In context, I was responding to the thoughts of Apple gaining marketshare vis a vis Microsoft. I don't have a problem with Apple as it is, which is very successful.

Several on these threads insist Apple is gaining ground on Microsoft, so at least some Mac users want the market share to expand. You don't, fine.

[avenir]

"Notice the captions. Got a clue now? They're personifications of the computers... not users."

I wasn't questioning the intent, but the recieved perception. Apple isn't all that smart in their advertising, or many, many more people would have responded affirmatively to the ads.

I think they're painfully stupid. On the other hand, the Mad TV sketch was disturbingly funny and did more for the mythos of Jobs, the iWitch.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

There wasn't anything original about what Jobs did...

Research the price of the machine at XeroxPARC vs. the first Mac. As I recall (I invite correction) $80,000 vs. $2,495.

Price is driven down the supply curve by production quantity. That is, the innovation in question is simply figuring out how to make a lot of Macs economically enough to be able to make a profit in the market.

As the Russians put it (tho probably in Russian rather than English), "Quantity is a quality all its own."

[cavador]

Here's a question I'd like to ask :
If Apple compters ported their O.S. to run on an intel machine,Would you buy it? or would you buy Vista?
No I don't want anyone to say they would stick with Win XP.
(It's a hypothetical question if you HAD to upgrade.)

[television is just wrong]

I agree, Microsoft is not to be pitied, they have their dedicated customers. Apple is another option. I'm on a Linux machine home built myself.

[MaxMax]

Hmm.

[jalisco555]

When this Dell dies, I'm going Mac. Son has one and I picked up on it in an afternoon.

Been there, done that, never looked back. You will never regret that decision.

[Lurker]

The first is the migration gets much better, as I've noted, after the first three months because more of the third party applications have both migrated and been patched and because the drivers are more mature (both more reliable and better tuned).

Only Microsoft can get away with selling a product which they admit won't work with other products for a month or two.

I can't imagine what the reaction would be if the manufacturers of washing machines told their customers something like:

"Not to worry. The detergent manufacturers will have compatable products in a couple of months."

"Do be careful in the meantime because some detergents may cause your machine to become inoperable, destroy all your clothing, or have some other negative consequence which we can't even begin to warn you about. Best of luck and thanks for buying a Maytag!"

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[jalisco555]

He suggested they talk to Gary Kildall about acquiring CP/M (Control Program for Microcomputers). They did try but Kildall was apparently not available (out flying his plane, it's said) and his wife and lawyer refused to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

IIRC, Kildall died a while back under rather mysterious circumstances. Rumors at the time were that he killed himself due to his never getting over the missed opportunity to get in on the IBM PC gravy train. He was major player in the early days of personal computing and watching Gates whiz by him was unbearable, so I've heard.

[savedbygrace]

Leopard isn't likely to be released before the NAB in April. That would be pretty late to qualify as a reaction to Vista.

[Swordmaker]

IIRC, Kildall died a while back under rather mysterious circumstances. Rumors at the time were that he killed himself due to his never getting over the missed opportunity to get in on the IBM PC gravy train.

I don't think suicide came into it... unless you count SBBBB... Suicide By Biker Bar Brawl. He was killed in a bar fight, July 6, 1994.

[jalisco555]

Thanks for the clarification. What a way to go for someone who was once riding so high.

[Terpfen]

Leopard will inevitably be compared to Vista, however.

[RightFighter]

The operating system that is going unnoticed is Vista. Microsoft did not have huge lines of people clamoring for their new OS

Not what I've seen at all here in Daytona Beach. I was in three different Office Depot stores on launch day, and there were lines of people waiting for the computer specialist to show them the features of the new Vista laptops. Best Buy sold out of Vista Ultimate (full and upgrade) in a couple of days.

It really is a great new operating system. I've been using the final version since November and I love it.

[Vaduz]

Microsoft=CRASH system is failsafe failsafe failsafe...

[6SJ7]

Whoa! Sounds like Balmer has a few unresolved issues.

[RightFighter]

If I recall correctly, all of the PC clone manufacturers except for HP reported a decline in their Q3-to-Q4 shipments. Apple did well by maintaining their quarter-to-quarter level compared to Dell, Lenovo, Acer, etc.

I would suggest that a large part of any decline in the late stages of 2006 on the part of PC manufacturers might have something to do with consumers and businesses holding off their purchases to wait a couple of months for Vista. I know many people who did this, and I recommended it to customers who were about to purchase new hardware.