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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It'll be secure from everybody but Microsoft. This thing is going to be incredibly invasive, there's been several threads here recently talking about just what the EULA for Vista lets Microsoft do. That's up to and including having the OS delete what *IT* considers to be "malicious" programs off your computer. It also has the "phone-home" XP-style validation that you have to do if you make major changes to your PC's components.

If I didn't need Windows for a few games, and IE for one particular web app that I run from home occasionally, I'd go Linux in a heartbeat. Vista's going to be buggy, bloated, invasive, and massively overpriced--$200 for a single operating system license for a home PC that only costs around $1000?

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14 posted on 01/30/2007 1:14:04 PM PST by Moose4 (I don't speed in Durham--if I get pulled for 65 in a 55, Mike Nifong'll have me doing 15 to life.)
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To: Moose4

I read about that courtesy of a thread on here. Needless to say I won't EVER purchase Windows Vista or a computer with it as the OS.


20 posted on 01/30/2007 1:21:02 PM PST by wastedyears ( "Gun control is hitting your target accurately." - Richard Marcinko)
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To: Moose4
It'll be secure from everybody but Microsoft.

Which means that it is secure from no one. Backdoors have a bad habit of getting found by people who weren't supposed to know that they were there.

59 posted on 01/30/2007 2:31:02 PM PST by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Moose4
f I didn't need Windows for a few games, and IE for one particular web app that I run from home occasionally, I'd go Linux in a heartbeat.

You might want to do some reading here:

Crossover Linux

Depending on your needs, you might be switching to Linux sooner than later.

I intend to do so just as soon as I suck every scrap of juice from my XP installs. Not a dime for Vista.

64 posted on 01/30/2007 2:47:40 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Res firma mitescere nescit)
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To: Moose4
That's up to and including having the OS delete what *IT* considers to be "malicious" programs off your computer.

Wow, an electronic Blockleiter for my hard drive.

No thanks.

95 posted on 01/30/2007 7:32:21 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Moose4

I don't care about the additional eye-candy in the operating system. So-called security protections are also messing up my applications in industrial controls. A colleague who does HMI work for me had to uninstall the automatically installed Internet Explorer 7, since it conflicts with applications that he works with (not home games/graphics/fun stuff - WORK!). One of my platforms I am still running Windows2000 because XP interferes with certain communications protocols. And now this Vista with the so-called security - what is it going to delete? If it was not for the industrial automation (as in programmable logic controllers) software that I use, I am approaching the point of telling Microsoft to go to hell, and go to Macintosh, since OS-X is essentially UNIX. Stable, bulletproof, and still preferred for math intensive real time process modelling. UNIX (X-windows) is still used in oilfield seismic logging.
If anyone here works for Rockwell Automation, and there is anything being considered on versions of RSLogix/Networks/Panelbuilder Plus software running in OS-X, freepmail me. I'm a business partner in a systems integration company.


104 posted on 01/30/2007 8:30:50 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Moose4

Welcome to Durham!


127 posted on 01/31/2007 3:33:33 PM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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