Yeah, it's just common lingo. We don't have a good word for it. Those that have a better idea what they're talking about, do. I'll give you a hint, "bootcamp" and "multiboot" contain the same four characters in a row, but I don't think that was what you were actually doing.
Yes, if they have retail stock you can buy it. Other places too.
You were the one saying XP wouldn't be available in 3 months, why not if I can still get 2000 seven years later?
DRM is just bad.
Bad for those who want something for free, but good for those that already have something worth protecting.
More accurately, they have no choice but to buy it with a new machine.
Apple sells new machines without Windows, you bought one or more yourself right?
Microsoft is who made the hackers so dangerous by refusing to fix so many long-time flaws.
Yes, I believe you said it took them "years", so where's the example I asked for?
Holding hands? I thought I had seem them all.
Unfortunately yes, it was something about being able to network together, I saw a stillshot posted here a couple of weeks ago too.
In fairness, Apple forbids you to virtualize their OS currently but it's widely expected they'll relax this to allow OS X to be virtual on OS X
I don't see much purpose in that, in any event Vista can virtualize and be virtualized whereas OSX still can't.
I don't see any reason to constantly allow this creeping intrusion and datamining of my personal property.
Automatically applying security patches is "datamining"? What about the pop ups I recently got to update my Quicktime, and even install iTunes, for which I have no use?
I'm not interested in the bargain basement machines. You do get what you pay for in design, support, etc.
This machine is no clunker, it's very sleek and very fast and very affordable. Extremely bright screen, super keyboard, even has features you don't see on the Mac notebooks like a memory card reader and dialup modem.
Look, until OS X.2, you couldn't have paid me to take an Apple machine.
I've always liked Apple, even after they abandoned me early on, because it is a premium product. I just find a portion of their users annoying who think every last person that uses a PC must be a gullible idiot. Obviously not, since I saw right through your questionable claims from the start.
Those that have a better idea what they're talking about, do. I'll give you a hint, "bootcamp" and "multiboot" contain the same four characters in a row, but I don't think that was what you were actually doing.
Huh? I have a 30GB BootCamp partition. I mostly use it as a virtual machine image, not as a BootCamp. This is why multiboot is a little more accurate term, I think. At any rate, I didn't invent the term. It's pretty common. Oh, and no, I
do not mean just some puny dual-boot configuration.
You were the one saying XP wouldn't be available in 3 months, why not if I can still get 2000 seven years later?
Go back and look. Some ignorant people tried to pretend I said that. I didn't. I corrected them. Then another one popped to pretend I did again. Since I didn't say it and was not talking about old copies of Retail versions rotting in some warehouse, then Win2k at CDW proves, well, not much. You do understand that MS isn't actually making and selling copies of Win2K now, don't you? That's just old stock. You can buy it lots of places, heavily discounted. Still, it remains an excellent choice for many users. Rock solid.
Bad for those who want something for free, but good for those that already have something worth protecting.
So the DRM that locks up your music if you put it on a Zune is good even if you can't get it off again? And the Apple DRM is good even if you have to burn and rip the tracks to get your desired MP3 to play
your licensed copy of it on your cellphone or non-iPod or toaster? You really think it's fair for them to sell you a generic track and restrict which device you can use? If so, you're pretty odd and far out of the mainstream. DRM is unpopular with everyone. Since the collapse of MS's own PlaysForSure (evil) DRM scheme, even Microsoft is now pretending to be anti-DRM (as a way of hitting Apple's iTunes profit center now that Europe is turning on all music DRM).
Apple sells new machines without Windows, you bought one or more yourself right?
This is just strange reasoning. Apple is not, of course, a Windows vendor. They have no official relationship with Microsoft the way Dell or HP do. You must have some grasp of MS's OEM licensing schemes. It's the basis of their monopoly for years.
Yes, I believe you said it took them "years", so where's the example I asked for?
I was trying to find Sysinterals website where you once could get some info. Then I remembered Microsoft just bought them, heh-heh. Surprising, isn't it, they'd buy a company with strong antihacking and antirootkit tools when Vista is such an invulnerable stronghold of security. Well, except for those six security flaws they just patched today, the day of the launch of "the most secure operating system ever" (Gates). Oh, yeah, and that Vista Service Pack 1 they already scheduled for release later this year to fix Vista's new
beta final product launch. Look, some of this is just a bad rehash of the same exact crap they pulled with XP up through XP SP1.
Same exact thing.
Okay, from Secunia:
Now, those are just for unpatched flaws in WinXP Pro, nothing else. I'm not going to bother to dig all the others out since you really could have found them yourself the same way I did.
I don't see much purpose in that, in any event Vista can virtualize and be virtualized whereas OSX still can't.
No. OSX and Vista can both be virtualized. But OSX can't be legally yet and will likely only be virtualized on Apple machines. (If you use some imagination, the implication is that you could boot Windows and then use VMware legally to virtualize OS X, all legal and with Apple happy
because you're running that licensed OS X on Apple hardware with Windows and VMware as hypervisor/host. Vista can only virtualize on the most expensive versions of Vista and you are forbidden to virtualize on the 3 primary low-end versions. Maybe Business too, can't recall that one. Again, the key point is that MS actually disables the hardware you paid for if you won't pay them extra. Effectively, it's MS's "virtualization tax". You pay for the new hardware, Microsoft disables it until you pay the blackmail. As I mentioned before, WinXP Pro will run dual-CPU but they never planned on multi-core so I get all four cores on my dual-Xeon quad-core machine. That's just evil and I'm taking advantage of poor Microsoft, at least judging by this new licensing scheme.
Automatically applying security patches is "datamining"? What about the pop ups I recently got to update my Quicktime, and even install iTunes, for which I have no use?
I now realize you don't really understand the update procedures very well. Do you even read the article on what the Vista license contains? And as for popups for Quicktime or installing iTunes on Windows, well, I guess if you actually allow IE7 to popup windows on your screen. It's been about two or three years since I've seen popups unless I explicitly turned them on for a specific purpose. I just don't know anyone who still allows websites to do that crap on their screens. Especially since they are such a known vulnerability that even M$ is blocking them with IE7 (feature stolen from Firefox/Mozilla of course).
This machine is no clunker, it's very sleek and very fast and very affordable. Extremely bright screen, super keyboard, even has features you don't see on the Mac notebooks like a memory card reader and dialup modem.
Um...No, I'm not going to even tell you why those poor stupid MacBook owners, well, lots of others too, would be giggling to hear you say this. Yeah, your towering powerhouse obviously buries them and their rotten Apples.
Dude, there are reasons why some people pay for and can justify spending $2500-$5000 on first-rate laptops. You may not but that doesn't mean that everyone has such modest needs. A commodity HP unit isn't a bad machine. They're plenty good for lots of ordinary home and business folk, actually more than what most people need. But that's not Apple's market. If you sold Apple, you know they're a high-end creative professionals' machine, they're a science and educational market machine. And they're a boutique machine with prices to match. Like your HP, they have a market slot too.
I've always liked Apple, even after they abandoned me early on, because it is a premium product. I just find a portion of their users annoying who think every last person that uses a PC must be a gullible idiot. Obviously not, since I saw right through your questionable claims from the start.
Well, I looked and realized I did get into a rant (or three or five). It's those endless parentheses that are the tipoff. OTOH, lots of the fanbois are FUDding or lying on this thread. I have repeatedly provided concrete information and reputable sources. At any rate, whatever the question is, Vista just isn't the answer. Stick with XP Pro. Far more useful and less sinister. And almost nothing needs Vista yet anyway and won't for several years. And their eye-candy is lame, their Search and Gadgets clear ripoffs of Apple's, their IE7 innovations are blatant ripoffs of Firefox, etc. Where's that Longhorn we were promised? Well, Microsoft found out they weren't capable of producing such a product because Microsoft is large and bulky and apparently can't invent anything at all any more. And their record of innovation has always been remarkably weak. They're no Xerox or IBM or General Electric. Or Apple.
So, I take it you don't even run Vista on your HP lappie? Ah, now you did make me chuckle at myself.