[Ben Ficklin]

The policies that you advocate will create a permanent underclass, or as you put it, slave like subculture.

You say you do not not mind conditional workers, with ID, sponsor, health checks, etc, aka guest workers. But the fact is that there were 3 such plans put forward and none of them were able to get past the BorderBots. Plus the BorderBots have blocked the H1B temp visa increase.

This old crap about illegal versus legal has worn out. Obviously, the short run hispanic population growth in the US would be affected by whether or not the illegals are given legal status. But in the long run, it will have little effect on the total numbers. For example, more hispanics are entering Texas via the birth canal than by crossing the river.

Let me give you a another good example of the lie. The poster at the top of the thread quotes Sen Session's exxagerations about what would happen if CIRA were enacted. But Sen Sessions is not saying what will happen is CIRA is defeated. He is trying to appeal to your emotion, rather than you intellect.

[wolfcreek]

"The policies that you advocate will create a permanent underclass, or as you put it, slave like subculture."


Those policies are now in effect and they're not being implemented. People hiring illegal aliens are bypassing the laws to escape giving these workers rights and the paying of payroll and income taxes. At the same time, legal citizen's paychecks and benefits are on the decline. It doesn't take much *intellect* to see what's happening here. The Globalist need a level playing field and they're doing it at the expense of the American working taxpayer.


If you really think there's no difference between illegal and legal then, why do We even have laws and what difference would a NEW comprehensive plan make?