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To: antiRepublicrat
Actually, I'm asking you why you don't appear to think that backing up a DVD, or the tools with which to do it, are illegal.

No, Factually, that is another lie, since you're not asking that at all, you understand the difference between "illegal" and "criminal", and are now simply trying to blur the terms in an attempt to excuse actual criminals. Here are your own words LOL over what constitutes a criminal offense: Simply violating a license by not abiding by the terms (if those terms are deemed enforceable by the court) is a civil tort, not a crime, thus, no "criminals." .

LOL you can't just keep jumping from thread to thread trying to claim something completely opposite, although it's quite obvious you're trying to lower the bar and falsely claim something is criminal, to make an excuse for something else that actually IS criminal, and obviously worse. That link is hilarious though, you beg and beg on behalf of those foreign hackers that what they did wasn't criminal, only to go down in flames, just like you are here.

114 posted on 01/25/2007 2:09:08 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Simply violating a license by not abiding by the terms (if those terms are deemed enforceable by the court) is a civil tort, not a crime, thus, no "criminals." .

True, but we're not talking about the violation of a license. We're talking about the violation of the DMCA, which forbids circumvention of DRM. If you backup a DVD (a violation of Sec. 1201, DMCA) and it saves you the purchase price of a new DVD, then you've personally gained financially from the circumvention, which invokes Sec. 1204 of the DMCA, making the backup liable for criminal prosecution.

Now that's simply the law. And it is the same law you have, even if unknowingly, applied to the HD-DVD cracker and the OS X crackers who committed the exact same act (circumvention of a copyright protection device).

So what is your opinion? Do you think backing up a DVD is at least illegal? This is your opinion I'm asking for, not the law, not precedent, just GE's opinion as to whether backing up your own DVD is illegal.

115 posted on 01/25/2007 10:10:30 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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