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Counterpoint: Does OS X Really Shine Brighter Than Vista?
InformationWeek ^ | 01/19/2007 | By David DeJean

Posted on 01/20/2007 1:24:47 AM PST by Swordmaker

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". . . one button mouse . . ."???

Obviously David deJean did little or no research on modern Macs.

" a comparison of the number of mouse clicks it takes to discover the network address being used by your computer — three for the Mac, six for the PC. Actually, a fluent speaker of Windows can do it in three steps, too:

  1. Click on the Vista icon
  2. Type "cmd" in the search box and click on the entry for "cmd.exe" that's highlighted in the results list, or just hit Return
  3. At the command line, type "ipconfig" and hit Return.

Amazing how "three mouse clicks" is converted to "Windows can do it in three steps." I actually find thirteen discreet movements, counting keystrokes, in the Windows "three steps". It's still 3 clicks on the Mac.

'And is an unlabeled icon shaped like an apple really any more intuitive than a button labeled "Start"?'

Apparently it is... because Windows Vista has replaced the button labeled "Start" with an unlabeled icon shaped like a circle with a Windows logo in it (is that the "Vista icon"?).

1 posted on 01/20/2007 1:24:50 AM PST by Swordmaker
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To: 1234; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; anonymous_user; ...
Windows fan rebuts pro Mac comparison of OS X and Vista... PING!

Make that "clueless Windows fan" who still complains about the Mac's one button mouse...

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 01/20/2007 1:27:21 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker
"clueless Windows fan" who still complains about the Mac's one button mouse
My G4 came with the single "button," tho I upgraded to a cordless mouse and am used to its right button and scroll wheel. I do now recall reading that Tiger has a much more complex mouse . . .

And I too loved that comparison of three mouse clicks to one mouse click and two typed instructions.

Is there anything to the claim he makes that Vista lays a serious foundation for applications development and for new hardware? Even if so, I suppose that the proper comparison will not be to Tiger but to Leopard, assuming that comes out on schedule.


3 posted on 01/20/2007 2:26:17 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Swordmaker
Why should we ever need to know or care what IP address our computer is using? The fact that OS X users can discover it in three clicks may simply be the sad result of needing to know it more often than Windows users.

Huh? What is the writer taking about? He never does suggest why a Mac user would need to reference an IP address more often. (For that matter, many networks run DHCP, so who cares what the IP addresss is of the machine).

That, and the business about dumping the ipconfig file in Vista. Now that's what I'd call user hostile!

4 posted on 01/20/2007 5:25:21 AM PST by 6SJ7
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To: Swordmaker
"On the other hand, Vista's short-term success is anything but assured, and Microsoft may still be able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

If it continues to cling to its vision of DRM and User Account Control, if it continues to behave as if it had a divine right to 90 percent market share, Microsoft will create a situation that makes inroads by other OSes inevitable.

With what I've read of Vista'a DRM scheme, which appears to have been spec'ed by the media conglomerates and RIAA, this issue alone may be the stumbling block to sales.

5 posted on 01/20/2007 5:42:19 AM PST by Covenantor
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To: Swordmaker
Actually, a fluent speaker of Windows can do it in three steps, too:

I too was going to bring that up. I was going to be generous and give them six steps (counting the typing as single steps).

6 posted on 01/20/2007 5:42:44 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: Swordmaker
If I had thought about migrating to Vist this-- this from an apparent Vista apologetic -- would kill it for me:

More problematic are Microsoft's efforts to make Windows Vista a more secure operating system. Security has never been something Microsoft did well. It has always subordinated practical measures for protecting users of its products against malware to, say, an ideological dedication to the cross-application scripting of Active X controls.

With Vista, the company seems not so much to be building in security for users as deniability for itself by explicitly making the user responsible for security wherever it can — and applying a definition of "security" that seems to confuse the safety of its customers' computing environments with its own interests in digital rights management (DRM).

Vista extends the discomfort of Microsoft's existing Windows Genuine Advantage anti-piracy intrusionware with its Software Protection Platform, which requires even more validation of the software's legality. At the same time, Vista doesn't seem to do much more to protect users' PCs and data from malware attacks than XP. The "OS X Shines" article may be overly strident about whether the new User Account Control (UAC) represents "authentication" or "approval," but it is correct about the result: UAC is certainly annoying.


7 posted on 01/20/2007 5:49:41 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: Swordmaker

The superiority of OS X is this quite simple proposition - what Windows Vista sets out to do, and requires at least 2 GB of RAM and massive processor power to accomplish, OS X accomplished 2 years ago and will run nicely on a slower processor with 512 MB to 1 GB of RAM.


8 posted on 01/20/2007 6:29:56 AM PST by jude24
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Just the facts Mac....

"" The superiority of OS X is this quite simple proposition - what Windows Vista sets out to do, and requires at least 2 GB of RAM and massive processor power to accomplish, OS X accomplished 2 years ago and will run nicely on a slower processor with 512 MB to 1 GB of RAM.

""

""A Windows Vista Capable PC includes at least:

A modern processor (at least 800MHz1).
512 MB of system memory.
A graphics processor that is DirectX 9 capable.

A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:

1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor1.
1 GB of system memory.
Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)2, Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.
DVD-ROM Drive3.
Audio output capability.
Internet access capability. ''

For you macaniacs a Vista capable PC is without Aero.
And a Vista premium PC is with Aero.

Sure it won't be screaming but neither would a Mac with less RAM. Lets not forget Rosetta to slow things down. :-)


9 posted on 01/20/2007 6:54:19 AM PST by FreedomGuru
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To: Swordmaker

I can do it in four: Right-click network (either on the desktop or from the system tray - you pick). Properties. Status. Detail.


10 posted on 01/20/2007 7:10:12 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Swordmaker
OS/X is a rock-solid, beautifully designed, 500-foot-tall skyscraper.

Vista is a modest suburban home, with a sprawling, ten story industrial plant stacked on top, capped by an impressive glass and steel spire that rises 1,000 feet in the air but has occasional problems with windows falling out.

Vista's advocates like to brag that Vista is a lot taller than OS/X and thus can hold many more people (support many more applications). Corporate America, being dependent on those applications, has no choice but to lease space in Vista.

But which building would you rather live in? ;)

11 posted on 01/20/2007 7:11:18 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Swordmaker
>Does OS X Really Shine Brighter Than Vista?

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Searching by Color Label

Besides the visual benefits of having certain files tagged with a Color label, there’s a hidden benefit: You can search for files by their color. For example, let’s say you misplaced an important file for a project you were working on. You can press Command-F to bring up the Find function, and from the top-left pop-up menu, choose Color Label.

Then, click on the color for the files you labeled in that project, and it will instantly find and display all the files with that color. Searching by color—only Apple is cool enough to come up with a search like this!

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Apple's cool because
Apple tells you they are cool!
NOTHING else matters!

12 posted on 01/20/2007 7:15:10 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Covenantor

So what's the issue? If you don't like DRM, then don't play protected content on your PC. Pretty simple. If you are quite happy with standard definition DVDs, nothing has changed for you, except that Vista Ultimate includes a DVD codec. If you want HD content, then you're subject to whatever protection the publisher demands for their product.


13 posted on 01/20/2007 7:20:39 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Swordmaker
Apparently it is... because Windows Vista has replaced the button labeled "Start" with an unlabeled icon shaped like a circle with a Windows logo in it (is that the "Vista icon"?).

I think it's referred to as the 'jewel' (whatever that means). But, of you mouse over it the tooltip says "Start". Users who don't appreciate irony have always had the option of using Alt+F4 to shut down their computers.

But really, who, aside from mobile users actually turns their computer off anymore? I've got three desktops and four laptops lying around here. Not a single one of them is ever turned off except the one I travel with. The rest quietly go into thier S3 state when not in use and woken up when needed.

14 posted on 01/20/2007 7:35:16 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The former. Because, the latter is full of people like you.


15 posted on 01/20/2007 7:37:12 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Swordmaker

One button mouse??? HUH??? What do you do if you're left handed?!?!?!?!?!? ;o)


16 posted on 01/20/2007 7:37:33 AM PST by Paco
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One button mouse??? HUH??? What do you do if you're left handed?!?!?!?!?!? ;o)

Now that's an easy question.
Just use this:


17 posted on 01/20/2007 7:56:19 AM PST by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: Swordmaker

When will everyone learn?

It's the applications, stupid!


18 posted on 01/20/2007 8:08:41 AM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Swordmaker
The point is this: a UI is something you learn, just like a language

Uh, NO! The whole point of a GUI is to do away with arcane learning curves and make using the computer intuitive.

And if you want to go that way, in OS X you can go to Applications, Utilities, Terminal to open a terminal, and type "ifconfig". Windows' ipconfig is just a later DOS version of this ancient UNIX command.

Windows XP was released the same year, and embodied changes as major as those in OS X. It incorporated the 32-bit NT kernel, and radically reworked the Windows UI.

Sorry, but throwing a Crayola theme on top of Win2K is not a radical reworking of the Windows UI.

19 posted on 01/20/2007 8:10:53 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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Must be a horrible life to have to use something you so obviously hate everyday just to pay the bills. Just goes to show justice can at times be poetic.


20 posted on 01/20/2007 8:35:28 AM PST by Golden Eagle
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