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1 posted on 01/12/2007 8:34:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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I know it takes someone using a walker a long time to cross the street, but that pace is glacial!


2 posted on 01/12/2007 8:35:51 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses.)
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3 posted on 01/12/2007 8:35:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("I've learned to live with not knowing." -- Richard Feynman https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Found In Walker

Musta been one of these, with the handy carrying basket....

6 posted on 01/12/2007 8:54:18 AM PST by r9etb
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I think the reaction to this find will be something like Young's:
Retracing the footprints of time
by Steve Sandford
September 9, 1996
web archive version
Direct radiocarbon dating of the Calgary site is not possible because the ancient artifacts were not found in conjunction with organic matter, such as bones or decayed plant matter, which is necessary for such testing. Absent such verification, Prof. Young dismisses the find. For one thing, he says, the artifacts are so simple they could merely be naturally-occurring rocks; he says that most informed scientists are doubtful they are tools. And even if they are tools, he adds that there is no way to be sure that they were originally situated where they were found under the gravel, since the site has served as an exposed gravel pit for the last 100 years. Comments Prof. Young: "Any dude could have put that rock there."

8 posted on 01/12/2007 9:07:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("I've learned to live with not knowing." -- Richard Feynman https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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more important Bob Villa states:...

"Their warranty is till intact!!!"

10 posted on 01/12/2007 9:49:49 AM PST by Young Werther
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Mattson said the objects were found underneath a band of rock and gravel that appeared to have been deposited by melting glaciers and then covered by windblown sediment...

So, these people were living under the glacier(s)? They were there before the glacier(s) formed? I don't get it.

11 posted on 01/12/2007 10:48:22 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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Tools Found In Walker, May Be 14,000 Years Old

(AP) Walker, Minn. Archaeologists have discovered stone tools atop a hill in this northern Minnesota town that may be 13,000 to 14,000 years old, according to a published report.

From the rough stone tools, archaeologists are speculating that "we're looking at certainly the relatively earliest occupants of the North American continent," biologist and archaeologist Matt Mattson said in a Star Tribune of Minneapolis report Thursday night. He worked on the project for the Leech Lake Heritage Sites Program, which is based near Cass Lake.

Britta Bloomberg, Minnesota's deputy historic preservation officer, said it may be among the oldest known archaeological sites in North and South America. A half-dozen archaeologists, soil scientists and others who have examined the site all said the artifacts are genuine, she said.

The stone tools were found while archaeologists were investigating the path of a road where the city is planning to expand for a community center, housing and businesses.

Archaeologists found 50 or more objects while digging through an area of about 50 square yards. The artifacts ranged from large hammer stones to small hand-held scrapers.

Mattson said the objects were found underneath a band of rock and gravel that appeared to have been deposited by melting glaciers and then covered by windblown sediment, Mather said.

David Mather, state archaeologist for the National Register of Historic Places, said the find "is something off our radar. We didn't think it was even possible in Minnesota."

"(This) could be a real watershed for understanding Minnesota's history," he said.

Mather said the site appears to be "much older" than the Clovis era of finely made spear points that defines the paleo-Indian period.

The find is "startling enough that appropriate response from every archaeologist and glacial geologist is skepticism." But, he added, a half-dozen archaeologists, soil scientists and others who have examined the site all say the artifacts are genuine.

Human remains, wood or textiles, if there were any, would have dissolved long ago in the acidic soil. The oldest human remains found in Minnesota belonged to the Browns Valley Man, who lived about 9,000 years ago. His remains were discovered in 1933 in a gravel pit near the town of Browns Valley in western Minnesota.

Walker is about 190 miles northwest of the Twin Cities.

13 posted on 01/12/2007 11:20:00 AM PST by blam
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To: Coyoteman

Ping.


15 posted on 01/12/2007 11:32:40 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
The old stomping grounds of my mis-spent youth..

My grandparents (and other relatives) lived in Remer, MN, about 40 miles from Walker.. ( It is the county seat )

The whole area is sort of a cross between woodland and swampland.. There are numerous bogs, marshes, "potholes", streams, and more than a few quicksand pits in the area..
It is generally damp, even in summer, and mosquitoes are so thick in the evenings they can cover a man in seconds.. like a blanket..
If the mosquitoes don't get you, the woodticks will..

There is a historical Indian Mound in Wadena MN as well, used as some sort of gathering place.. ( religious, political ? )
It might be worth having some one checking out the history there as well..

33 posted on 01/14/2007 1:43:03 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom... Not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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