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Accuser changes story in lacrosse case
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Posted on 01/11/2007 7:25:16 AM PST by SmoothTalker

"The woman adjusted the timing of the assault to earlier in the evening, a time point preceding the well-documented alibi of one accused player, Reade Seligmann. The defense, however, introduced yet more alibi evidence for Seligmann: he was on the cell phone with his girlfriend during the height of the attack as the accuser now times it."

"* In her latest statement she said the attack ended at midnight.

In previous accounts, the woman said the gang-rape ended shortly before she left in the car driven by Kim Roberts, the second dancer. Roberts called 911 as she was driving away at 12:53 a.m., according to police records. This new account leaves 50 minutes unaccounted between the end of the rape and the departure from the party.

The new statement runs contrary to time stamped photos of the party, which show the two women dancing between 12:00 and 12:04 a.m. in the living room of the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.

* In the latest statement, the woman says she arrived at the party at 11:20 p.m. on March 13 and that the rape began at 11:40 p.m. Her cell phone records show that she was on phone with her father and others up to one minute before the rape allegedly started."

"* The accuser has changed her description of Evans. On April 4, she viewed a photograph of Evans and said it looked like one of her assailants, except that the assailant had a moustache. In the Dec. 21 statement, the woman said the assailant had a five o'clock shadow, not a moustache. Evans has a visible five o'clock shadow in the photograph."

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To: Howlin
Hey Nifong, Put some ice on it!
461 posted on 01/11/2007 4:22:31 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: RecallMoran
 
 
Yiiipes - Nifong ought to go and get himself a one-way plane ticket to somewhere that would better appreciate his stalin-esque prosecutorial skills, say Venezuela, North Korea, Iran.....
 
 
 
 

462 posted on 01/11/2007 4:35:31 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: All

Provost Peter Lange on 'Free Speech and Speaking Freely'
By Peter Lange

http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2007/01/lange.html

Oh my poor poor faculty. They attacked other people and now can't understand the counterattack.


463 posted on 01/11/2007 4:44:52 PM PST by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I don't know how Nifong kept the sexual assault charge against Reade based on Crystal's latest version. (of course I can't understand how the three of them were indicted in the first place where there is the same DNA evidence used to exonerate convicted rapists.)

And anyone, ANYONE, who argues that Crystal was a victim of Nifong has only to read her December 21 lies. This conviving whore is no victim!

I'd like to leave Nifong in the same room with Mrs. Evans, Mrs. Finnerty, and Mrs. Seligmann.


464 posted on 01/11/2007 4:47:42 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: Jezebelle
It's too stupid for them to have made it up.

Well I have tried to say it would be too stupid for Nifong to do some things in this case, but this is no more stupid than conspiring with Meehan to hide evidence. I just read the graphic statement the Linwood the faux Christion took. He clearly led her through parts of it.

1. He clearly had the time line moved back and had her lie about when they got there.

2. He clearly had her say the mustache was really more like stubble.

3. He clearly had her say she could not remember if she was penetrated by a penis because they needed a story that would not have lacrosse player DNA on her.

4. He clearly led her through the toweling her off to try to rehabilitate the inconculsive DNA result on Evans.

5. Her comment about Seligmann not doing any thing to her because he was engaged seems to me a sign this group of morons think they are going to try to deal with Seligmann to get him to turn. Given he statements, the Seligmann's must wonder why the sexual offense charges against him were not also dropped.

Nifong and Linwood the faux Christian are morons. This is a tale transparently attempting to make the old tale fit the facts as known. This is the most pathetic thing yet in this case.
465 posted on 01/11/2007 5:00:49 PM PST by JLS
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To: Mad-Margaret; Crawdad; Protect the Bill of Rights; abb; maggief; sissyjane; Carolinamom; All

Did you all see this one already?






Former aide, Nifong snipe at each other

Benjamin Niolet, Staff Writer


DURHAM - The woman who ran Mike Nifong's campaign for district attorney before defecting to work against the prosecutor said Nifong was a political novice who should have told voters the N.C. State Bar was investigating his handling of a sexual assault investigation against Duke University lacrosse players.
"I think that he owed it to the voters to step out and say, 'Just so you know, there's a chance that I will get a complaint filed against me from the N.C. Bar,' " said Jackie Brown, a longtime Durham political activist.

In an interview, Nifong described his former campaign director as a woman more concerned with getting credit for good work than doing it.

"There were actually several people who said to me they would not consider voting for me because she worked on my campaign," Nifong said in an interview in which he declined to discuss the lacrosse case. "Her biggest concern during the campaign seemed to be how she was billed in the campaign ads."

The two traded jabs through a reporter Wednesday. Brown talked in detail about the events that led her to leave Nifong's campaign to work for a candidate who promised he wouldn't take the job if elected -- an anybody-but-Nifong campaign. Nifong won the three-way contest in November, although more than half of the voters split their votes between Nifong's opponents.

In the months since the November election, Nifong's critics have grown increasingly vocal as defense attorneys for the lacrosse players have turned up the pressure on Nifong. They have exposed weaknesses in the case, while others have called his judgment and ethics into question.

In December, Nifong dropped the rape charge against the players after the accuser said she was no longer sure of a key detail of her allegations. A DNA expert testified in a hearing that he and Nifong agreed to leave off a report evidence that was favorable to the lacrosse players. After the State Bar accused Nifong of ethics violations over his early public statements in the case, the Conference of District Attorneys joined calls for Nifong to recuse himself from the case.

Nifong would not comment on the State Bar complaint or whether he would recuse himself. But he said whatever he does, it will not be at Brown's urging.

"Whatever happens will happen for whatever reason it happens," Nifong said. "I think I can assure you if I did anything that happened to be what Jackie [Brown] suggested, that would not be the reason I was doing it."

David Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md.; Collin Finnerty, 20, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., face felony charges in connection with the accusations. The men maintain their innocence and say the accusations are lies.

Brown said Wednesday that during the primary campaign, she found that Nifong had no political instincts and had to be told to shake as many hands as he could at a party. For campaign material, he favored a photo of his family by the Eno River over one of him behind a desk with a flag looking like a prosecutor, she said.

"He was the most naive candidate I have ever encountered," Brown said. "He knew nothing about politics."

Brown said when Nifong began giving interviews to scores of reporters during the last week of March, she never thought he was motivated by a desire to win political favor.

"I went to him when he was doing the media -- 'Mike, you need to stop this. You don't know the impact either way this is going to have,' " Brown said. "He was simply caught up in the moment."

The lacrosse case is due back in court in February. The accuser is among the witnesses expected to testify in the defense effort to have key evidence in the case thrown out.


466 posted on 01/11/2007 5:07:06 PM PST by Howlin (The GOP RATS - Republicans Against Total Success (Howie66))
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To: JLS

Look at what I just posted:

HE KNEW HE WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION BEFORE THE PRIMARY!!!!


467 posted on 01/11/2007 5:07:59 PM PST by Howlin (The GOP RATS - Republicans Against Total Success (Howie66))
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To: Locomotive Breath
When the events of the spring unfolded we witnessed an unimagined intensity of vituperative language and distasteful and deeply hurtful caricatures of Duke students, our campus and its culture, our Durham community and our relationship to our neighbors in the city.

Well, gee, Provost, who was it was doing all the stirring of those pots and pans? It sure as hell wasn't the Duke players or their families.

468 posted on 01/11/2007 5:13:45 PM PST by Howlin (The GOP RATS - Republicans Against Total Success (Howie66))
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To: Locomotive Breath

Locomotive, have you seen this picture? Note the writing on the building, too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1766098/posts#comment?q=1


469 posted on 01/11/2007 5:14:12 PM PST by toldyou
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To: Howlin

Thanks, Howlin. I didn't see today's story on Jackie Brown v. Nifong. I can't believe that he's even engaging with her with everything else breaking today. He's like that knight in the Monty Python movie who wants to keep fighting even after he's been trimmed to a torso.

If the disciplinary procedure in NC is anything like it is in Michigan, Nifong would have been notified within days after a complaint was filed back in March. But that doesn't mean anything -- and was not something that should have been told to voters as Jackie Brown suggests. Over 90 percent of those complaints are dismissed. The attorney answers the complaint and the greivance committee dismisses it. And it's all confidential.

Things get serious when the bar files the complaint against the attorney based on its investigation. Nifong didn't know that was coming until -- when?-- after the October meeting at the earliest. And the bar's complaint wasn't filed until late December.

I can't keep up with everything that's breaking.


470 posted on 01/11/2007 5:24:34 PM PST by Mad-Margaret
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To: Mad-Margaret

' I don't know how Nifong kept the sexual assault charge against Reade based on Crystal's latest version "

There's new info in Crystal's statement which BTW reads like the script from a porno Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Evans, Seligman and Reade were portrayed as acrobats in the teeeny, tiny bathroom .
And perhaps gay acrobats- " Dave Evans got under Finnerty on the floor.."
I don't think the professionals from Cirque du Soleil could execute the aerial jumps , lifts and drops that Crystal describes in her fevered accounting.
Crystal, in earlier statements , described herself as delivering kung fu moves to fight off her attackers.
Now, she has Dave Evans being in such a sexual frenzy ( from being under Finnerty ? ) that he was forced to satisfy himself in front of her.
That was the extent of his involvement .
If this wasn't such a travesty-it would be hilarious.


471 posted on 01/11/2007 5:28:08 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Locomotive Breath

HYPOCRITES!



472 posted on 01/11/2007 5:44:28 PM PST by maggief
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To: Howlin

"Whatever happens will happen for whatever reason it happens..."



Rather a convoluted way of saying "not my fault.

SShh! I hear Doris Day singing that song in the background.

"Que Sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be..."


473 posted on 01/11/2007 6:04:35 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Locomotive Breath

I know how those faculty victims operate. I'm sure they managed to shock Lange with hundreds of faux emails and racist remarks they, themselves, added to the comment sections of blogs.


474 posted on 01/11/2007 6:19:08 PM PST by JoanOfArk
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To: Locomotive Breath

I guess we know what their legal defense will be. Lange never defends what the faculty said nor does he ever say it is warranted or had a basis, only that mean people criticized them in over the top terms. While I;ve no doubt that is true, it is also trued that neither Brodhead in his rambling statement nor Lange ever say what it is. Part of a pattern -- Brodhead always alludes to the reprehensible/dishonorable/choose your negative word behavior of the lacrosse tea mwithout ever sayign what it is.

These folks are in for a rude awakening when the civil suits come down the pike. Actions have consequences. To compare the anguish and maltreatment of the three indicted players with some nasty e-mails some faculty may have received is ludicrous. The words pampered and haughty come to mind.


475 posted on 01/11/2007 6:22:13 PM PST by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: RecallMoran; JoanOfArk

I have no doubt that they've received some hateful e-mails. So what? Wheel turns.


476 posted on 01/11/2007 6:33:07 PM PST by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1134166/
Trial Date Set for Nifong Ethics Complaint

Posted: Today at 7:26 p.m.

Durham — A trial date is now set for the ethics complaint filed against Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong.

The State Bar filed the complaint last month saying Nifong might have engaged in deceptive behavior in the way he has handled a sexual assault case involving members of Duke Unviersity's lacrosse team.

The bar takes issue with comments Nifong made early-on in the case.

Nifong's trial is set for May 11.

He hired an attorney from Winston-Salem to defend him.

A three-member panel will decide guilt or innocence, and then, depending on the outcome, impose a sentence. That could be anything from a warning to being disbarred


477 posted on 01/11/2007 6:41:16 PM PST by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Carolinamom
To account for the many different versions, will she now claim that she has multiple personalities named SueAli, TiffanyIzi, JaKishaMohammid, etc.....and they have confused Precious' real version of the truth?

Don't laugh. Stranger things have happened in the hallowed halls of "justice."

Remember the day care workers who were convicted of taking children on airplane trips to remote desert locations where they were exposed to satanic rituals, involved in ghastly sexual perversions, and returned to the day care center with nary a hair out of place, in time to be picked up by their mothers at the end of the day.

I would NOT be totally shocked if your actual scenario, or one just like it, were to be tried by these scumbags.

478 posted on 01/11/2007 6:56:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: abb; Locomotive Breath

Cool! I'll be in Durham. Wanna go stand outfront and thumb our noses at Nifong, LB (and anybody else in the neighborhood)?


479 posted on 01/11/2007 6:59:23 PM PST by Dukie07
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To: hinckley buzzard

It would make a crazy (operative word) kind of sense, wouldn't it? NOTHING would surprise at this point.


480 posted on 01/11/2007 7:06:21 PM PST by Carolinamom (Thank God that Mary and Joseph were not pro-choicers.)
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