This lady is dressed "pro-actively."
Posted on 01/11/2007 7:25:16 AM PST by SmoothTalker
"The woman adjusted the timing of the assault to earlier in the evening, a time point preceding the well-documented alibi of one accused player, Reade Seligmann. The defense, however, introduced yet more alibi evidence for Seligmann: he was on the cell phone with his girlfriend during the height of the attack as the accuser now times it."
"* In her latest statement she said the attack ended at midnight.
In previous accounts, the woman said the gang-rape ended shortly before she left in the car driven by Kim Roberts, the second dancer. Roberts called 911 as she was driving away at 12:53 a.m., according to police records. This new account leaves 50 minutes unaccounted between the end of the rape and the departure from the party.
The new statement runs contrary to time stamped photos of the party, which show the two women dancing between 12:00 and 12:04 a.m. in the living room of the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.
* In the latest statement, the woman says she arrived at the party at 11:20 p.m. on March 13 and that the rape began at 11:40 p.m. Her cell phone records show that she was on phone with her father and others up to one minute before the rape allegedly started."
"* The accuser has changed her description of Evans. On April 4, she viewed a photograph of Evans and said it looked like one of her assailants, except that the assailant had a moustache. In the Dec. 21 statement, the woman said the assailant had a five o'clock shadow, not a moustache. Evans has a visible five o'clock shadow in the photograph."
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We had folks going nuts denying that anyone could possibly be ignorant of what a Lacrosse stick looked like.
Notice that the broomstick story (which I didn't originate) has popped up again.
I kind of wondered why all the Lacrosse sticks in that house weren't taken as evidence (according to our earlier reports on the list). Is it possible that even the Lacrosse team doesn't know what the sticks look like? This would be exculpatory evidence ~ that nothing was found on the sticks either.
That's exactly right.
Bissey didn't like his neighbors, and probably thought he was helping the prosecutor's case by placing the two women there and noting that they went back into the house and relating all the drinking that had been underway by players coming and going all day. But now he will like even less basically being called a liar. Memories fade a bit over time, but I think Bissey's recall will be surprisingly good. He probably thought he was being a stand-up guy for the ladies, and now the "victim" has completely shot him down.
Bissey has no reason to lie on behalf of the players. He made it clear in the Rita Cosby interview that they were a nuisance in his view. The Rita Cosby interview is footage of a walk-though with Bissey of what he saw and heard that night. It has now become a defense exhibit.
If this travesty does go to trial, Nifong will have to call the SANE nurse to document Crystal's initial examination. The defense will make mincemeat out of her. Bet on it.
This is something she has "edited" in to her story, obviously after reading about the girl friend.
The time/date stamps on the photos really aren't "hard evidence". After all, one of the guys at the party had control over the settings ~
You might go looking for the earliest threads and find out who mentioned it first.
What a great, and powerful letter!
I doubt if Nifong or Wilson had anything to do with making this one up. It's so pathetic and obvious that it's a lie and does not fit with any other objective evidence that only Mangum is stupid enough to make it up. Nifong and the investigators, including Wilson, have taken such a beating from the defense that I think they're afraid to tell anymore lies, especially the investigators. This new story, I believe, came directly from Mangum and is the beginning of her death rattle in this case. She has cornered herself in lie after lie, story after story, and this was an act of desperation, plain and simple. It is so absurd as to be comical because it completely denounces her entire previous timeline and all known objective facts. Mangum's latest story cannot be shoe-horned into the objective facts known in this case. Her new story, she thinks, will explain the identifications she made, which is the next task before her. When push comes to shove, I don't think she will be able to get on the stand and repeat this. Surely not even she can expect the world to suspend reality and common sense to the degree needed to believe her latest fairytale.
Unless she shows up for court drunk on her ass.
It may be against the law but if she's certifiably nuts (which has been claimed) it's not prosecutable.
The undersigned, Jason Alexander Bissey, after being duly sworn, deposes and says as follows:
1. This affidavit is my account of the events of the evening of March 13, 2006 and the early morning hours of March 14, 2006 at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd. Durham, NC. I live next door at 608 N. Buchanan Blvd., Durham, NC.
2. At the approximate hour of 2 p.m. on Monday, March 13, 2006, I had noticed that a group of young men were playing a game of "washers" and drinking beer in the back yard of 610 Buchanan as I left the house on foot. I remember in particular one young man wearing a sort of suspenders-like harness that would hold two cans or bottles of beer. My roommate, Derek Anderson, also recalls seeing this back-yard game occurring on this day.
3. I returned to my residence at approximately 11:30 p.m. on Monday. After getting a bottle of beer from my kitchen, I proceeded to my porch to smoke a cigarette. It was at this point that I noticed that the party from earlier in the day was still in effect next door at 610 Buchanan. I noted that some men were still lingering in the back yard of 610.
4. At approximately 11:50 p.m., I saw from porch that a car had been stopped directly in front of 610, and noted that two young women, both appearing to be African-American, were walking from the direction of the car and proceeding to the back-yard entrance of 610. One of the two was dressed in an extremely short tan skirt and was wearing high heels. Her hair was pinned up above her ears. The other women was more conservatively dressed in pants and a sweater or blouse of some sort, and her hair was shoulder-length and curly. The two women briefly spoke with one of the men who was in the back yard. I remember hearing that he lived "at the other house," which in retrospect I assume to be the house on Urban Ave. that also was rented to Duke lacrosse team members. This man then left in the direction of Watts St., apparently to residence to which he had just referred. Another young man spoke briefly with the two women just outside the back door of 610, and then proceeded indoors. At this point no one was outside of 610 besides the two young women.
5. A very brief conversation between the two women ensued, which I observed by switching to another chair on my porch. The more conservatively dressed woman noticed me at least once, when we made eye contact. She was speaking to the more proactively-dressed woman in a tone that I deduced through body language to be sort of coaching, as if she was preparing her for something that she herself was comfortable with, but needed to talk the woman with the short skirt through it. I did not overhear any specific words at that time. Twice that I noticed during this conversation, a man or two different men opened the back door of 610 and spoke to the women, and the more conservatively dressed woman responded both times something to the effect that they would "be right there," or "just give us a minute."
6. I saw the women enter 610 together. After a moment, I remember quite specifically noting that it was Midnight. The reason I know it was Midnight is because I looked at my cell phone and noted the time. At approximately 12:05 a.m. on Tuesday, I re-entered by house and took a shower. As I was getting re-dressed in my bedroom, which is on the opposite side of the building from 610, I heard loud voices outside. I had left my front door open, and the voices were carrying from in front of my residence, as well as open windows along the alley between 608 and 610.
(snip)
http://crystalmess.blogspot.com/2006/09/jason-bisseys-statement.html
Yep, there are all sorts of trouble with the new time line.
1. Danceing after being raped and beaten and being scared away by a comment after she had in fact used a sex toy earlier.
2. Roberts [aka Pittman]only lost sight of Mangum well after this. So she must have been in on it.
3. Her own cell phone says she barely arrived by then.
Some states have a "guilty but insane" situation so you can lock up the uncontrollable mentally ill people for stuff they do. Others just turn 'em loose as the doctors see fit.
It depends on whether or not she signed her original statement under penalty of perjury or not. I don't know if NC includes that in their victim-witness statements or not. Most states do, but in NC anything is possible.
This lady is dressed "pro-actively."
Not in NC.
Well, she doesn't do much for me, but I can see others might find her very pro-active. LOL!!!
This case is not going to trial. If Nifong tries to push it to trial, he may well find his case before the NC Bar being pushed to trial.
The other lawyers and particularly the other DAs in NC are not going to stand for this idiot presenting this "case" or his "evidence" such as they both are in public where they can be ridiculed and the public outrage can grow and grow. It is just too costly for them. He would be disbarred before this case could come to trial if he keeps push it towards trial.
You are correct, and NC is the only state I have ever heard of in which somebody is charged with a crime and the date, time, location, etc., are not specified in the charging to the greatest extent they can be known to the prosecution. It's absolutely unconscionable.
But her family are also a pack of colossal liars. Mangum's dad, Travis, and her cousin, Jakki, have been caught in about as many lies as she herself has.
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