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More Insults About the 'North American Conspiracy'
Human Events ^ | 1-5-2007 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 01/05/2007 10:48:25 AM PST by jmc813

Conservative blogger John Hawkins of Right Wing News has now decided to join Michael Medved in a new ad hominem attack by using a disparaging adjective to call me a name (“kooky”) and placing me No. 3 in the list of the 20 “people on the right” he finds most annoying.

Hawkins places me between No. 2 Mark Foley, whom Hawkins characterizes as a “page-molesting pervert,” and No. 4 Duke Cunningham, the congressman Hawkins notes is “going to jail for 8 years after taking a bribe.” I am honored to be included on any list John Hawkins wishes to create. But, as far as I can determine, my offense to Hawkins involves writing with the scope of the 1st Amendment, an offense that Hawkins considers somewhat worse than taking bribes, but not quite as bad as making salacious approaches to underage male employees.

I first want to thank Hawkins for his continuing campaign to draw attention to my arguments.

Second, I wonder how much additional writing I will have to produce before Hawkins reduces himself to the “liar, liar” ranting stage Michael Medved exhibited in his recent emotional tirade published on Townhall.com. I guess I will have to read more of Hawkins’s writing to determine if I find his views annoying, but upon introspection I find I have no emotional reaction whatsoever, even to his characterization that I am somehow “annoying” to him. Perhaps President Bush drew solace that he was listed seven positions below me on Hawkins’s “most annoying” list. I apologize to President Bush that Hawkins could not find a better pejorative for him than “incompetent.” Clearly in Hawkins’s hierarchy to be “kooky” in writing a political commentary is much more annoying to him than to be merely “incompetent” in conducting the affairs of the nation’s highest elected post.

Arguing that my writings advance a “completely moronic North American conspiracy theory,” Hawkins linked to an old post he had written on his blog last summer. In an exchange published in July on HUMAN EVENTS’ Right Angle blog, I answered these and other objections raised by Hawkins. The exchange ended when Hawkins chose not to respond. Hawkins has never answered my last specific rebuttals published on the blog. Merely repeating his initial arguments would be considered “non responsive” in traditional debate theory.

Besides, I have never argued a “North American conspiracy.” The European Union and the Euro are realities today, not a conspiracy theory. So too, North American integration is proceeding rapidly right now, fully documented, as the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America attests if you reference the Department of Commerce website SPP.gov. Equally, the Trans-Texas Corridor is proceeding rapidly, as documented by the Texas Department of Commerce website. If either the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America or the Trans-Texas Corridor is a conspiracy, the conspiracy is being perpetrated by government officials on their public websites.

We will grant that the now public writings of those who advanced the European Union, such as the memoirs of EU intellectual architect Jean Monnet, confess after the fact that a stealth method was pursued to create the European Union. As Christopher Booker and Richard North, co-authors of the 2003 book, “The Great Deception: A Secret History of the European Union,” write that Jean Monnet “knew that only by operating in the shadows, behind a cloak of obscurity could he one day realize his dream.” Architects of North American integration, such as Robert Pastor of American University, breathe new life into stealth politics when suggesting openly that a new 9/11 crisis may be just the event needed to advance his agenda for creating the “North American Community” he openly professes.

At any rate, I invite Hawkins to resume his debate with me. To make the process easy, we will link to the exchange. Seeing that I wrote the last rejoinder there, the next move appears to be up to Hawkins. Is Hawkins up to calm, rational debate, or does he want to leave his comments at the level of calumny, an ad hominem attack which always belies an inability to win the argument any other way?

My writing has been aimed at making sure that North American integration does not advance to the point where a North American Union emerges after what may be a decades-long incremental process. I want to be sure that the United States does not follow the template set in place by how the European Union and the euro emerged over some fifty years, driven by an intellectual elite and evolving step-by-step from an initial, seemingly innocuous continental steel and coal agreement.

What is it exactly that Hawkins finds annoying—that a NAU and the Amero could be the end result of the North American integration currently happening, or that I might suggest the Bush Administration could be following the Jean Monnet path intentionally?


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To: hedgetrimmer

Hedge, you are confusing the sheeple by putting out too many facts for them to absorb. They had rather blindly support these groups than to have to admit to the truth.


241 posted on 01/07/2007 5:54:27 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: 1rudeboy; Eastbound
Look at the links page.

Lots of stuff from Global Research and Birch

242 posted on 01/07/2007 5:56:37 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: 1rudeboy

Go back and read what I said. I said what I meant to say.


243 posted on 01/07/2007 5:57:58 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Alia; hedgetrimmer
Alia you also should know that members of hedgetrimmer's Council of Americas heard a reading from and discussed literary translator Edith Grossman's The Golden Age: Poems of the Spanish Renaissance, the recently released collection of her translations of eight Renaissance poets from Spain and Mexico.
244 posted on 01/07/2007 5:58:46 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: texastoo
"I am just amazed that so much is done behind our backs and is actually a done deal when we find out about it."

This has become SOP. Our political elites know better than to place any of this before the people as they should, because none of this would ever fly. Thus, the practice has become to sneak it in wherever they can but, for God's sake, keep quiet about it.

Which is why I am no longer able to trust the federal government. About anything.

245 posted on 01/07/2007 5:58:50 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Ben Ficklin

For some reason I would think you would prefer the News/ activision page rather than chat. After all, Guiliani and his X are "important" news today. LOLOLOL


246 posted on 01/07/2007 6:03:02 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: texastoo
Go back and read what I said. I said what I meant to say.

No thanks. It's clear that you do not know what you are saying, otherwise you'd clear it up. As for your comment that "[t]hey can call us conspiracy nuts all they want but notice they continue to read our threads to find out what is going on in this country," where else on this website can we find updated information on the concentration camps where we're all headed as soon as George Bush declares martial law? Hands down, these are the most entertaining threads on FR. Heck, you backpedal from comments you haven't had the opportunity to complete.

247 posted on 01/07/2007 6:03:51 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: texastoo

I abandoned this thread long ago but was called back by wolfman and southbound


248 posted on 01/07/2007 6:06:36 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Czar; Eastbound; B4Ranch

Post #226 also has some good links.

We are not the only people who don't trust our government anymore.


249 posted on 01/07/2007 6:07:33 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Ben Ficklin
I write Age Of Tyranny News for two purposes: First, to relate how a national emergency or event like a bird flu pandemic will establish martial law and tyrannical state corporate rule over the entire N. American continent.

Secondly, to communicate sound wealth preservation and management principles so that one can prosper in the coming bear financial market.

[chuckle]
250 posted on 01/07/2007 6:10:59 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: texastoo

Are you a big fan of Global Research?


251 posted on 01/07/2007 6:11:53 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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That's from the link in comment #226.


252 posted on 01/07/2007 6:12:24 PM PST by 1rudeboy (still chuckling)
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To: Ben Ficklin

FEMA Railroad Car Stands At The Ready To Take Detainees To The Camps. This One Is A Triple Decker. And It Is Air Conditioned: It Has Slats In The Side For Fresh Air.

Source
253 posted on 01/07/2007 6:15:24 PM PST by 1rudeboy (still chuckling)
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To: 1rudeboy

Life must be Hell when they find themslves sitting at the table with Global Research and Age of Tyranny


254 posted on 01/07/2007 6:15:46 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Although if you think about it, Jerome Corsi is perfectly sane by comparison, and explains their devotion to him.


255 posted on 01/07/2007 6:17:41 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Ben Ficklin
Then Wes Vernon provided the missing link, Corsi's father organized the United Transportation Workers Union.

Talk about Discover the Network! Good show!

256 posted on 01/07/2007 6:18:44 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: 1rudeboy

drooling devotion to him


257 posted on 01/07/2007 6:19:41 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: texastoo
Isn't if funny! The pawns who complain Corsi is a conspiracist-- they are the ones who always bring up concentration camps and martial law. I'll bet they are planning to pull some strings with their globalist buddies to make sure it happens, so they don't look silly!

And don't you feel just a little bit sorry for them? They are human beings, most of them anyway.. They are slaves to their computers, can't even get out for a nice Sunday with their families, cuz they're too busy watching us to see if we post anything! LOLOL
258 posted on 01/07/2007 6:27:36 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Thank you very much for the better estimate of the actual cost of Y2k remediation!

You're welcome. But that was just the amount incurred by the DOD. It didn't include all government, nor any industry amounts.

Hamre stated that estimate on multiple occasions. Here is one source:

Q: What is the cost to get DOD compliant?

DR. HAMRE: We think it cost us about $3.6 billion. And that's -- it's very frustrating to say that we had to spend $3.6 billion. I remember talking to a fairly senior chief information officer from a major corporation in America who was complaining that he had to spend $400 million, and when his CEO jumped him about it, he said, "I know it's a waste of money, but you have to do it to save your company." (Laughter.) And that's -- you know, and that's exactly what we had to do. We could not stand the consequence if we had not spent the $3.6 billion. In the process, we have much, much better positive control over our information systems. So we've gotten some good out of it, but we had to do this no matter what.

This might be a more comprehensive estimate, also from DefenseLink:

John Koskinen, the assistant to the president for Y2K matters, said he was pleasantly surprised at the lack of Y2K problems. ... Koskinen estimated the cost to fix the Millennium Bug worldwide was around $200 billion. DoD spent roughly $3.6 billion. Given the calm that has surrounded the rollover, some critics suggested DoD overreacted to the Y2K threat.

259 posted on 01/07/2007 6:35:18 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: hedgetrimmer
And don't you feel just a little bit sorry for them?

No, not me. They are entertaining as they have posted links to witches websites to photo galleries. That is all.

260 posted on 01/07/2007 6:40:46 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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