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The Real Firefox-Killer
Linux Journal ^ | 03 January 2007 | Glyn Moody

Posted on 01/03/2007 5:09:44 PM PST by ShadowAce

Firefox fans will be facing 2007 with more tranquillity than they did 2006. A year ago, it was clear that Firefox's free ride was about to end: after an astonishing five years of inactivity, Microsoft was finally launching an updated version of Internet Explorer. There seems little doubt that much of Firefox's success is down to the fact that Internet Explorer was so bad, both in terms of the eternal round of security problems and its general technical tiredness (half a decade is a very long time in computing.)

Potentially, them, the appearance of Internet Explorer 7 could have marked the high-water point for Firefox, as the Microsoft machine went into overdrive and began clawing back the market share it had lost since Firefox's arrival. But when the final version of Internet Explorer 7 appeared in October last year, the verdict was almost unanimous: it was not a Firefox-killer. To be sure, it was much better than IE6, but that had set the bar pretty low. Aside from offering tabs and a few much-needed security enhancements, IE7 was definitely in the ho-hum category. Firefox seemed safe for at least another year or two.

It is not. For the real challenger comes not from Microsoft directly; instead, it's from a new browser that uses IE's rendering engine, Trident, but which is produced completely independently of the company. This means that it can offer all the "benefits" of 100% compatibility with what is still the dominant Internet browser, together with a host of real improvements - some of which go beyond even Firefox.

This new competitor is called Maxthon, and, significantly, come from China. This is relevant because the Chinese computer sector has tended to evolve according to its own rules. So while many sensible Westerners have seen the light and converted from Internet Explorer to Firefox, this is by no means the case in China. On the contrary: according to a recent interview with one of Maxthon's executives, Maxthon holds around 30% of the Chinese browser market, while Firefox is nowhere. Put that figure together with the fact that there are currently 132 million Internet users in China, up 30% from last year, and likely to grow even more in the future, and you have a situation where Maxthon's installed base probably already rivals that of Firefox.

That on its own would be bad enough; worse is that fact that the Maxthon browser is going to be being pushed aggressively outside China. The company behind it has received several rounds of investment, and now has the funds to make a big impact in the West.

Worst of all, perhaps, is that the Maxthon browser is actually better than Firefox. That is, it offers all of the features we have come to know and love on Firefox - tabbed browsing, adblocks, skins, plugins - together with several innovative ideas, such as automatic detection of RSS feeds, built-in Babel Fish translation, quick links to Google's cache, mouse gestures as standard, and plugins for Gmail, Hotmail, Bloglines, and coComment already installed.

I said that Maxthon offers all of the features of Firefox, but there is actually a rather important one that is missing: freedom. Although Maxthon is free as in beer, it is not free as in freedom. For readers of this blog, that will probably be the showstopper in terms of using Maxthon, but for the other 99.99% of the world, it is largely irrelevant. Maxthon may only work on Windows, but the market share of non-Windows desktops is currently small, so this is not a major issue either. The fact is that Maxthon could well be the best browser out there for most non-technical users who either are unaware of or don't care about deeper issues of freedom.

This is extremely dangerous for Firefox. Although Firefox 2.0 is widely regarded as superior to IE7, it is not that much better: it has no really stunning new features, and the old memory leak still seems to be dripping away (Firefox regularly eats up 200-300 Mbytes on my systems). In other words, it is hardly invulnerable to a bright, brash new entrant like Maxthon.

There is a danger that the Firefox world is starting to rest on its laurels and become complacent: this could be fatal for the Fox. The last thing it can afford to do is sit back and take its position as the coolest, most innovative browser around for granted. It can't even point to its highly successful SpreadFirefox community as an unbeatable trump card: Maxthon too has an extremely active and enthusiastic community behind it, which provides bug reports and evangelises the product.

Unless some serious thinking goes into how to make Firefox 3.0 not just better, but also truly exciting once more - and I don't mean just adding things like microformats - I fear that 2007 may finish much worse than 2006 did for the Firefox world.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: browser; firefox; ie7; maxthon
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1 posted on 01/03/2007 5:09:47 PM PST by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 01/03/2007 5:10:22 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Firefox may die so I'll just move on to the next generation browser...and that ain't IE 7.


3 posted on 01/03/2007 5:12:01 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: ShadowAce
Interesting. I've never even heard of the Maxthon browser until reading this. It would take allot to pull me away from Firefox. I installed IE7 on a PC at the office, and it was just horrible. It's like they wanted to be like Firefox but it's the worst looking interface I've ever seen. Not to mention, by default it's security settings will disrupt your work if you so much as sneeze in front of your computer while the browser is running.
4 posted on 01/03/2007 5:18:37 PM PST by KoRn
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Dang, just when I had everything working in IE6 and Firefox... before I download IE7 if you have downloaded IE7 does my website still look ok?

my website

Thanks for the Freeper "TECH" input!

yes, this opens in a new window so you wont lose FR!
5 posted on 01/03/2007 5:18:49 PM PST by VastRWCon
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To: ShadowAce

Yeah, like I'm going to install that ChiCom software on my computer.


6 posted on 01/03/2007 5:20:18 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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ah, This was MYIE it worked pretty good a few years ago till I started useing firefox.


7 posted on 01/03/2007 5:23:19 PM PST by Kewlhand`tek (When you take things in backwards, everything comes out backwards.---Savage)
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To: FoxInSocks

That is what I thought! Who knows what "back doors" etc. may be in that?


8 posted on 01/03/2007 5:26:21 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: FoxInSocks
Yeah, like I'm going to install that ChiCom software on my computer.

That's the main reason I posted this article. There are several FReepers who use and like it a lot. I'm hoping that once they see where it comes from they'll change their minds.

9 posted on 01/03/2007 5:26:48 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

If it won't run on any Unixes, it won't be very relevant in a few years.


10 posted on 01/03/2007 5:27:54 PM PST by ikka
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To: ShadowAce
...(Firefox regularly eats up 200-300 Mbytes on my systems).

It only uses 60-80 megs on mine.

11 posted on 01/03/2007 5:28:33 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Worst of all, perhaps, is that the Maxthon browser is actually better than Firefox. That is, it offers all of the features we have come to know and love on Firefox - tabbed browsing, adblocks, skins, plugins - together with several innovative ideas, such as automatic detection of RSS feeds, built-in Babel Fish translation, quick links to Google's cache, mouse gestures as standard, and plugins for Gmail, Hotmail, Bloglines, and coComment already installed.

And a nice backdoor that will let the Chinese Ministry of State Security and Chinese Red Army InfoWarfare Battalions 0wn your box at will.

12 posted on 01/03/2007 5:33:53 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Judges' orders cannot stop determined criminals. Firearms and the WILL to use them can.)
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built-in Babel Fish translation, quick links to Google's cache, mouse gestures as standard, and plugins for Gmail, Hotmail, Bloglines, and coComment already installed.

Why is this a plus? Few people would use all of these gadgets, and if they don't, then it's just so much bloatware. You really don't want a bunch of plugins you don't intend to use.

13 posted on 01/03/2007 5:34:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ShadowAce
This new competitor is called Maxthon

Not new. Same old story as "MYIE", "Greenbrowser" and a host of others that are overlays for Internet Explorer.

I have tried them and have tried Maxthon. It is no real competition for Firefox.
I like Greenbrowser better than Maxthon because it is mere an executable with no install necessary, can be run from a flash drive and uses IE on the backend so it is compatible with my company's webpages which require IE.

But I will not give up Firefox.

14 posted on 01/03/2007 5:37:54 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: ShadowAce
The author is a self admitted idiot. how can you work in the IT field reviewing browsers, know about and explicitly mention firefox's user community bug reporting system, and yet not figure out why you have a memory leak.

Also, everything he said Maxthon has that Firefox doesn;t, well, I'm running firefox 2 and I have everyone of those options.

Worst of all, perhaps, is that the Maxthon browser is actually better than Firefox. That is, it offers all of the features we have come to know and love on Firefox - tabbed browsing, adblocks, skins, plugins - together with several innovative ideas, such as automatic detection of RSS feeds, built-in Babel Fish translation, quick links to Google's cache, mouse gestures as standard, and plugins for Gmail, Hotmail, Bloglines, and coComment already installed.

autdetection of RSS - Live Bookmarks and/or Sage

built in translation - http://backword.gneheix.com or https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3361/

quick links to google cache - Diggler - use force version compatibility extension first: http://diggler.mozdev.org/

mouse gestures as standard - Firefox2 has several competing gesture extensions

plugin for gmail - that' s a 1 minute change to chrome to make right click go to gmail or yahoo mail or gmail, or use http://www.addonzilla.com/index.php?mod=content&read=5 to put a gmail yahoo or whatevermail icon on a toolbar

Blogging quicklinks - firefox2 has plugins for at least 2 dozen blog sites and backends.

As for working with CoComment this author is straight out lieing, or was hoping so few of his readers use it they wouldn't notice he is pulling shit out of his arse. CoComment and maxthon are simply incompatible at this time. There is a big warning on cocomment.com's compatibility page describing how maxthon doesn't work with cocomment, and how a firefox/flock/netscape greasemonkey script makes it extremely easy to use CoComment with the mozilla forks.

I want to get paid to right total garbage and not have to make coherent commentary.

15 posted on 01/03/2007 5:39:27 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: VastRWCon

Looks fine on IE7 and Vista.


16 posted on 01/03/2007 5:50:13 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: ShadowAce

I tried Maxthon a coule of years ago - just as it was changing to that name. Better than Firefox? No.

I used Firefox for quite a while, although I didn't like the way it handled a few things... and no matter how many times I re-installed (or whatever) it refused to remember my preferences on SOME things.

Recently I discovered K-Meleon. So far, I like it a lot.


17 posted on 01/03/2007 7:19:02 PM PST by WireAndWood (DNC: if it weren't for groupthink we'd have no think at all.)
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To: ikka

It's very possible that it could run on *nixes...

First and foremost would be through Wine and Crossover...


18 posted on 01/03/2007 7:21:40 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: ShadowAce

I received a new computer recently.

IE has been opened and run one time. To download Firefox.


19 posted on 01/03/2007 7:24:20 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Why bifocals? Font inflation. Today's 14 point is the same as 2 point was in 1957.)
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To: WireAndWood

"Recently I discovered K-Meleon. So far, I like it a lot."

I run K-Meleon off a thumb drive. Very handy for what I do on lots of different computers.


20 posted on 01/03/2007 7:42:47 PM PST by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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